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Cheryl Langdon-Orr
34:44
LOL
Bram Fudzulani
35:13
LOL
Javier Rúa-Jovet
37:11
got thrown out. Im back
Steve Chan
41:37
The summary document being shared now is available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rsyxCEBd6ax3Rb_w1kms_E9n29XL1_lw3Yp9XQ4TeCY/edit#heading=h.1dkvvdaktdpa
Javier Rúa-Jovet
42:00
Thx Steve
Jorge Cancio
47:32
so this is a summary document of the public comment?
Steve Chan
47:50
@Jorge, that is the intention
Jorge Cancio
49:14
I feel aso many commenters from "the other side" see the 2012 Rules as a compromise
Jorge Cancio
49:58
that should be made explicit in this summary... see e.g. the general comments from Spain etc. and similar comments
Katrin Ohlmer
50:01
I'm not sure that the categorization of "many" is correct.
Katrin Ohlmer
50:16
Relates to rec. 2-9
Jorge Cancio
51:10
It would also be important to specify when specific positions are held from very specific groups and when they are held across SO/ACs
Arasteh
51:18
Matin
Marita Moll
52:34
The words many and some are troublesome -- was it a majority, a large majority, a slim majority -- there's a lot nuance missing
David McAuley
53:48
hear yoiu know, Kavouss
Steve Chan
55:02
If it helps, I would note that the intention is to try and provide high-level impressions, but it’s not expected to be a consensus call, where assessing the level of support is more important (for the co-leads to do).
Katrin Ohlmer
55:37
It still provides an impression which might be misleading.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
56:22
Correct @Martin this is a distillation exercise now
Susan Payne
01:02:00
can whoever has their microphone open please mute it whille they aren't speaking. very distracting toi have to hear you in the background
Andrea Glandon
01:03:08
I still have unidentified phone numbers. If you are logged into Zoom and see your number above in the list, can you please let me know your name? Thank you!
PMcGrady
01:03:48
Are we doing that yet? Are we designating consensus levels, or just going through this clean document one last time to make sure we have captured public comment?
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:04:16
Thank for your comment @Jorge.
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:04:30
Thanks
Andrea Glandon
01:04:44
As a reminder, only members are allowed to join this call. If you are not a member of WT5, please disconnect.
Andrea Glandon
01:04:53
Any non-members will be removed
Annebeth Lange
01:05:35
@Andrea, if they want to be a member, is that still possible?
Andrea Glandon
01:06:06
Let me check if members are being accepted.
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:06:27
Or observervers maybe, @Andrea?
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:06:38
observers
Andrea Glandon
01:06:57
Unfortunately, observers are not able to join this call.
Susan Payne
01:07:02
even Govts are potential applicants Christopher
Jorge Cancio
01:07:22
I trust you (co-leads and staff support) will please consider my comments: (1) we are all making a compromise when we support 2012 rules; (2) there is a difference betweensupport coming from only roups of one SOor AC, and positions supported from people coming from across SO/C;
Annebeth Lange
01:07:29
I have been asked by new members of our community if it is possible to join
Andrea Glandon
01:07:56
@Annebeth, I am checking on this
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:08:04
I would not oppose new members.
PMcGrady
01:08:14
@Christopher, who would be left if registries and potential registries (those who are not yet registries) were excluded from the multistakeholder process? Seems pretty binary to me...
Susan Payne
01:08:15
@Annebeth, if they want to get up to speed on all the discussion to date !
Annebeth Lange
01:10:40
@Susan, quite a job! But if they are interested in new gTLDs, they should not be left out, in my view. This work take years, and if they join the community isn’t it natural that they are interested in what is going on?
Andrea Glandon
01:11:27
Thank you, new members are being accepted, but they need to email gnso-secs@icann.org to request and fill out the appropriate documents. Thank you!
Annebeth Lange
01:11:42
@Andrea, thanks!
Andrea Glandon
01:11:59
You’re welcome!
Susan Payne
01:12:06
@Annebeth, yes I think people who are interested should be able to participate, but we cannot work for nearly 2 years and then have to re-open debate or explan all that has gobe before if someone new joins. The WG guideliones are quite clear that they have to get themselves up to speed
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:12:10
Thanks @Andrea
Jeff Neuman (Co-Chair))
01:12:21
Thanks Jim. Message delivered
Andrea Glandon
01:12:23
You’re welcome!
David McAuley
01:12:32
Someone's mike remains open
Susan Payne
01:12:36
sorry for typos
Andrea Glandon
01:12:38
Finding the line
Jorge Cancio
01:13:44
this is not about a "consensus call" - but if we are summarising the public comment we have to be precise. And there is a difference between positions held by groups of one AC or SO, and positions held across SO/ACs. Those are Facts that should not be hidden with mentions of "some" think this, "some" think that
Andrea Glandon
01:13:49
Those who would like to join can use this link as well Please do fill in the following sign-up form and we will be emailing your shortly for further steps: https://goo.gl/forms/dICXUwUZLIoHTuLZ2 [goo.gl]
Jeff Neuman (Co-Chair))
01:14:15
I thnk you got it right
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:14:15
Well said Martin
Jim Prendergast
01:14:48
That was helpful didnt realize the consensus calls on this WT would move to the larger plenary.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:15:28
WT 5 is a track OF the overall PDP process @Christopher
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:15:55
PDP processes are managed BY the GNSO Council for Top Level Generic Names
Andrea Glandon
01:15:57
We still have 2 unidentified numbers ending in 459 & 998.
Jorge Cancio
01:16:15
@Cheryl: that's clear. It is also clear that twt5 was established under specific and special conditions...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:16:46
In recognition of the special interests IN the topic yes Jorge
PMcGrady
01:17:11
@Chris - on what basis do you believe that the GNSO Council will undo our work? Is it mere speculation or is there something brewing you should make us aware of? (Note: I'm on the Council and have heard nothing of any secret plans to topple over WT5's work)
Miguel Ignacio Estrada
01:21:34
+1 Annebeth comments
Jorge Cancio
01:23:10
a general caveat: I'm seeing this document for the first time as we speak... I guess I'm not the only one - and the document may require some deeper revision
Katrin Ohlmer
01:25:36
+1 Jorge
Susan Payne
01:26:17
Christopher please close your mic
Katrin Ohlmer
01:26:29
I'm digesting through the comments we made during the comment period and it seems that at least some are not properly classified in this document
Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet
01:27:10
Annebeth is exactly right on the ccNSO comment meaning.
Jorge Cancio
01:27:33
@staff: please circulate such documents in advance as PDF. Not everybody can Access Google Docs
Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet
01:28:11
3166 list is dynamic.
Susan Payne
01:29:39
this has been raised multiple times. noone else supports this point
jaap
01:30:11
The ISO 4127 doesn’t seem to care either
PMcGrady
01:30:33
If somone is speeking, it is very hard to hear them...
Jim Prendergast
01:30:39
Martin is very soft
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:30:39
Very low
David McAuley
01:30:41
I'm losing audio entirely
jaap
01:30:48
BTW, I have tp drop off for an other call
Steve Chan
01:30:57
@Jorge, we can do that. We’ve been a bit reluctant to do so since these are living documents. But sure thing.
PMcGrady
01:30:58
Martin - come in from the garden. :)
Jim Prendergast
01:31:01
lol
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:31:08
Goodbye @Jaap.
David McAuley
01:31:08
I also must drop off for another call - thanks Martin, staff and all
Jim Prendergast
01:31:26
Same for me. thanks
Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet
01:31:28
Currency codes whilst derived from 3166 are not geo names and hence out of scope for WT5
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:31:40
Thank you @Martin.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
01:32:40
Unfortunately , I also must drop off for another call. thanks all
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:33:02
Bye @Dev.
Jorge Cancio
01:34:52
@Steve: thanks, as you know Google Docs is barred for different reasons from being used in different countries, Environments etc.
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:35:58
Thanks @Steve.
Katrin Ohlmer
01:37:24
There should be some time to digest this document and get back to staff with feedback until the next call.
christopher wilkinson
01:37:39
@Nominet - I did not insist that the currency codes be discussed in WT5, (although clearly geographical),. PDP has not yet taken this up. That is why I) raised it.
Arasteh
01:38:06
Martin, HOW COMES UP THE THREE LETTERS CODE ENTERED IN THE MANDATE OF THIS GROUP
Arasteh
01:38:20
Sorry for CAP
John Rodriguez
01:40:37
Thanks Steve. I believe the US Government comment/position is not reflected w/r/t to 3 letter codes. It should be included under the 4th bullet point under "Make Available." Thanks.
Steve Chan
01:41:23
@John, noted and thanks
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:43:43
3 letter codes are in scope.
Olga Cavalli
01:44:25
I agree with Annebeth comments
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:44:32
Agree.
Marita Moll
01:44:54
Me too, have to leave for another committment
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:45:11
Bye @Marita
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:46:10
All co-leads are aligned on fact that 3-Letter codes are in scope.
Vrikson Acosta
01:50:17
3-letter codes are a good por
Vrikson Acosta
01:50:37
opción
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:54:34
9 mins
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:55:07
no hands
Annebeth Lange
01:55:58
@Martin, this clarified the process we have gone through today. What we see today is that there are no clear and substantive view from all that the recommendations should be changed. There are still very different views.
Jorge Cancio
01:56:02
there is still a wt5 call?
Annebeth Lange
01:56:14
@Jorge, 2 or 3 more
Annebeth Lange
01:56:47
@Steve, the document disappeared from the screen
Steve Chan
01:56:54
i stoped sharing :)
Steve Chan
01:56:59
stopped
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:57:02
Ha!
Steve Chan
01:57:43
Wednesday, 05 June 2019 at 14:00 UTC for 90 minutes
Steve Chan
01:57:50
My Outlook froze!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:57:57
thx @Steve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO3)
01:57:59
thanks everyone ... bye for now...
Javier Rúa-Jovet
01:58:02
Ciao!!!
Jorge Cancio
01:58:02
thanks Martin and all, and bye!
PMcGrady
01:58:08
Thanks all!
Annebeth Lange
01:58:11
Thanks, Martin, well done, a difficult task tonight
Katrin Ohlmer
01:58:13
thanks all
Annebeth Lange
01:58:14
Bye!
Ejikeme Egbuogu
01:58:16
bye everyone