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martinsutton
37:31
Thanks for the reminder Annebeth
Steve Chan
38:05
Document can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WKSC_pPBviCnbHxW171ZIp4CzuhQXRCV1NR2ruagrxs/edit#gid=843000317
Justine Chew
44:38
Not really as usual for ALAC
Justine Chew
45:55
Thanks for the intervention @Martin
martinsutton
52:32
@Susan - to the last point, should we classify IPC comment just as divergent (not supported)?
PMcGrady
53:14
I'm having trouble hearing Martin
Steve Chan
53:29
@Susan, we flagged as Agreement (partially - first part) Divergence (with second part)
Marita Moll
53:59
Sorry to be late. Overlapping calls and I'm not very good at doing two at once
Justine Chew
54:32
@Steve field D172 is the agreement and divergence reversed?
Steve Chan
54:49
Yes Justine, I just realized that and switched it
Justine Chew
55:01
@Steve, cheers.
Justine Chew
57:55
@Steve, sorry are D171 and D172 swapped? I'm having trouble reconcilialing the colours in B171 and B172 and what is "first part" and what is "second part"
Steve Chan
58:20
@Justine, I’ll have to look later :)
Justine Chew
58:26
Thanks!
John Rodriguez
01:00:39
I would just be cautious that when we refer to "governements" we aren't referring to all governments. Thanks!
Justine Chew
01:05:41
I think so too @Martin
Steve Chan
01:06:16
@Martin, is the edit on screen what you had in mind?
Arasteh
01:06:56
IPC ISD VERY PROACTIVE
Susan Payne
01:07:12
I don't think the blue sentence is a new idea
Steve Chan
01:07:14
Correct, that’s what I was asking about
Justine Chew
01:07:14
@Steve, I think the last paragraph in B13 too
Justine Chew
01:09:20
I think we should leave it as black
PMcGrady
01:09:22
It should be marked down as disagreement + new idea.
Steve Chan
01:10:01
@All, like so?
Arasteh
01:10:09
Martin do you have suggestion to change the Lnguage
Steve Chan
01:10:27
And would def appreciate an assist on the other comment Susan!
PMcGrady
01:11:30
Is this exact match idea anywhere else in the document? If so, I guess it wouldn't be a new idea, just support of the idea somewhere else (if it is somewhere else).
christopher wilkinson
01:11:31
@ John Rodriguez - in my experience, most governments just assume that common sense will prevail, and that they can intervene in the interests of their people at a later stage. Just to be cautious. CW
PMcGrady
01:11:57
+1 Susan and Martin.
Susan Payne
01:12:46
28 on the previous tab is the other one
Steve Chan
01:13:22
@Susan, will take a look afterwards, thanks
Andrea Glandon
01:14:31
I have muted the line
Justine Chew
01:16:52
I understand Susan's point. Am trying to see if categorization is correct.
Greg Shatan
01:18:07
The full comment will hopefully be illuminating....
martinsutton
01:19:14
thank you Justine
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (PDP Co Chair)
01:19:19
thx Justine I think there was reserved concerns
Marita Moll
01:19:26
re: ALAC item -- I think Justine has nailed it
Susan Payne
01:21:04
thanks Justine, I was misunderstanding your comment, but it turns out that it was wrongly categorised in a different way :)
Susan Payne
01:22:05
well what would you have then Christopher?
Robin Gross
01:22:10
We need to remember the principle of predictability and lists help immensely with that.
Greg Shatan
01:23:02
I guess that means we won’t use those ISO lists.....
christopher wilkinson
01:23:53
@Susan - All Geo-names, world - wide. All languages and scripts.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
01:24:44
unfortunately have to leave the call
christopher wilkinson
01:25:13
@ Greg - I have pointed out months ago that the ISO Lits do NOT address the situation in many countries.
Susan Payne
01:26:05
does the oredr of categorisation matter? both the last 2 appear to be Divergence for reasons specified
Susan Payne
01:26:11
order
Susan Payne
01:27:11
same comment as above for this Q too
Steve Chan
01:27:16
@susan, do you mean because there are concerns and divergence?
Susan Payne
01:27:21
yes steve
Steve Chan
01:28:09
I think that’s up for you all to decide if it matters, whether the distinction matters for your consideration?
martinsutton
01:30:38
I think we have muddled the comment/commentor on that item Susan
martinsutton
01:30:47
Checking now
Steve Chan
01:31:00
Having the Concerns does not remove the Divergence?
Marita Moll
01:31:05
line 74 -- divergence although there is also an explanation
Robin Gross
01:31:27
I would say that NCSG’s comment in #72 is closer to a “Qualified Agreement” (rather than simple Agreement) in order to not lose the point made.
Greg Shatan
01:31:28
Is there also “carefree” divergence?
Greg Shatan
01:31:51
Divergence is always indicative of concerns, is it not/
Alexander Schubert
01:31:59
How do you spell "Kafka"?
David McAuley
01:32:00
I have to leave for another matter, thanks Annebeth and all
Greg Shatan
01:32:01
So we don’t need to say it.
Greg Shatan
01:32:30
Kafka, Esq.
jaap
01:32:33
I have to drop off for an other call.
jaap
01:32:43
Bye
Alexander Schubert
01:32:46
Esquire?
PMcGrady
01:33:32
Is this call 60 minutes or 90? It is in my calendar as 60.
christopher wilkinson
01:33:33
Do these subtleties matter? If the staff summary is ambiguous it is enough to click on the original comment. Comments made on the List or in WT5 Calls carry as much wiethg
christopher wilkinson
01:33:42
Weight
Susan Payne
01:34:00
90 paul
Justine Chew
01:34:04
Looking at it now
PMcGrady
01:34:44
Thanks.
Robin Gross
01:34:52
If agreement is purely conditional, I think it important to note that.
Steve Chan
01:35:46
@Martin, we will go through the document and try to make sure any other BRG/RrSG mis-assignments are fixed
martinsutton
01:36:10
Hoorah!
martinsutton
01:36:19
Well done everyone
PMcGrady
01:36:38
Let's hang up quickly before....
christopher wilkinson
01:36:42
Brilliant chairmanship!
Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet
01:36:58
well done Annebeth!
Arasteh
01:37:16
It is good that people are happy
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon Registry)
01:38:05
I agree Susan
Marita Moll
01:38:20
We could call the ALAC comment Agreement (qualified)
Robin Gross
01:38:35
#73 says “According, the RrSG does not support” so that is just the conclusion, not a separate comment.
Alexander Schubert
01:38:52
Indeed well done Annabeth!
Justine Chew
01:38:55
Sorry, I got kicked out of Zoom
christopher wilkinson
01:39:22
PRTICIP
Robin Gross
01:39:25
#73 is Only Divergence (not also concerns)
christopher wilkinson
01:39:48
Participants do not have scrolling rights. Correct?
Arasteh
01:40:02
I DISAGREE
Justine Chew
01:40:15
f.2.4 Line 87/8 ALAC comment should be Agreement (Qualified) + Concerns
Marita Moll
01:40:19
NO scrolling rights -- very frustrating
Arasteh
01:40:19
iAM DISCONNECTED
Arasteh
01:40:34
Sorry fior CAP
Susan Payne
01:41:02
also 50 and 51
Robin Gross
01:41:32
#72 from NCSG is a CONDITIONAL Agreement
Robin Gross
01:41:40
I’m not on audio
Susan Payne
01:41:47
34 aND 35
Robin Gross
01:42:15
Yes, it is conditional agreement.
Robin Gross
01:42:22
Thank you.
Susan Payne
01:42:28
AND 50 AND 51
Susan Payne
01:42:34
sorry for caps
Arasteh
01:42:39
am disconnected
christopher wilkinson
01:42:40
There is nothing wrong with expanding the scope of approval, non-objection.
Andrea Glandon
01:42:49
@kavouss, calling you back
Susan Payne
01:45:51
Thanks Steve that helps
Andrea Glandon
01:47:14
@kavouss, I do show that you line is connected and unmuted from my end
Raymond Mamattah
01:47:20
No please from me
Marita Moll
01:47:56
Leaving now. Bye.
Justine Chew
01:48:11
Do we have any more open topics?
Greg Shatan
01:48:12
No concerned, divergent ideas please.
Robin Gross
01:48:43
Agree that it is good to spend time on the difficult issues in Marrakech.
Raymond Mamattah
01:49:19
Hope those of us who cant make it to ICANN 65 can join virtually
martinsutton
01:50:03
Remote access will be available for WT5 meetings at ICANN
Raymond Mamattah
01:50:30
okay. no travel opportunities to ICANN 65?
Susan Payne
01:52:56
good to know the last 15 minutes are soapbox time
Greg Shatan
01:53:12
The TLD space was never intended to be a gazetteer or an atlas.
PMcGrady
01:53:16
Silence does not equal assent.
Robin Gross
01:53:31
Right, Paul. Same.
Susan Payne
01:53:37
Quite Paul
Greg Shatan
01:53:37
I am assuming that silence is disagreement in this case.
Steve Chan
01:53:59
Next call is currently scheduled for: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 05:00 UTC for 90 minutes
PMcGrady
01:54:19
@Steve, please note the next meeting is in the middle of the INTA meeting.
Robin Gross
01:54:26
Thanks, Annabeth and Martin. Bye!
Griffin Barnett
01:54:26
+1 Paul, Susan
Susan Payne
01:54:27
thanks Annebeth
Ejikeme Egbuogu
01:54:30
bye everyone
martinsutton
01:54:32
Bye all, thank you
Raymond Mamattah
01:54:32
Thank you and greetings from Ghana
Steve Chan
01:54:32
Thanks Paul