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martinsutton

37:31

Thanks for the reminder Annebeth

Steve Chan

38:05

Document can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WKSC_pPBviCnbHxW171ZIp4CzuhQXRCV1NR2ruagrxs/edit#gid=843000317

Justine Chew

44:38

Not really as usual for ALAC

Justine Chew

45:55

Thanks for the intervention @Martin

martinsutton

52:32

@Susan - to the last point, should we classify IPC comment just as divergent (not supported)?

PMcGrady

53:14

I'm having trouble hearing Martin

Steve Chan

53:29

@Susan, we flagged as Agreement (partially - first part) Divergence (with second part)

Marita Moll

53:59

Sorry to be late. Overlapping calls and I'm not very good at doing two at once

Justine Chew

54:32

@Steve field D172 is the agreement and divergence reversed?

Steve Chan

54:49

Yes Justine, I just realized that and switched it

Justine Chew

55:01

@Steve, cheers.

Justine Chew

57:55

@Steve, sorry are D171 and D172 swapped? I'm having trouble reconcilialing the colours in B171 and B172 and what is "first part" and what is "second part"

Steve Chan

58:20

@Justine, I’ll have to look later :)

Justine Chew

58:26

Thanks!

John Rodriguez

01:00:39

I would just be cautious that when we refer to "governements" we aren't referring to all governments. Thanks!

Justine Chew

01:05:41

I think so too @Martin

Steve Chan

01:06:16

@Martin, is the edit on screen what you had in mind?

Arasteh

01:06:56

IPC ISD VERY PROACTIVE

Susan Payne

01:07:12

I don't think the blue sentence is a new idea

Steve Chan

01:07:14

Correct, that’s what I was asking about

Justine Chew

01:07:14

@Steve, I think the last paragraph in B13 too

Justine Chew

01:09:20

I think we should leave it as black

PMcGrady

01:09:22

It should be marked down as disagreement + new idea.

Steve Chan

01:10:01

@All, like so?

Arasteh

01:10:09

Martin do you have suggestion to change the Lnguage

Steve Chan

01:10:27

And would def appreciate an assist on the other comment Susan!

PMcGrady

01:11:30

Is this exact match idea anywhere else in the document? If so, I guess it wouldn't be a new idea, just support of the idea somewhere else (if it is somewhere else).

christopher wilkinson

01:11:31

@ John Rodriguez - in my experience, most governments just assume that common sense will prevail, and that they can intervene in the interests of their people at a later stage. Just to be cautious. CW

PMcGrady

01:11:57

+1 Susan and Martin.

Susan Payne

01:12:46

28 on the previous tab is the other one

Steve Chan

01:13:22

@Susan, will take a look afterwards, thanks

Andrea Glandon

01:14:31

I have muted the line

Justine Chew

01:16:52

I understand Susan's point. Am trying to see if categorization is correct.

Greg Shatan

01:18:07

The full comment will hopefully be illuminating....

martinsutton

01:19:14

thank you Justine

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (PDP Co Chair)

01:19:19

thx Justine I think there was reserved concerns

Marita Moll

01:19:26

re: ALAC item -- I think Justine has nailed it

Susan Payne

01:21:04

thanks Justine, I was misunderstanding your comment, but it turns out that it was wrongly categorised in a different way :)

Susan Payne

01:22:05

well what would you have then Christopher?

Robin Gross

01:22:10

We need to remember the principle of predictability and lists help immensely with that.

Greg Shatan

01:23:02

I guess that means we won’t use those ISO lists.....

christopher wilkinson

01:23:53

@Susan - All Geo-names, world - wide. All languages and scripts.

Dev Anand Teelucksingh

01:24:44

unfortunately have to leave the call

christopher wilkinson

01:25:13

@ Greg - I have pointed out months ago that the ISO Lits do NOT address the situation in many countries.

Susan Payne

01:26:05

does the oredr of categorisation matter? both the last 2 appear to be Divergence for reasons specified

Susan Payne

01:26:11

order

Susan Payne

01:27:11

same comment as above for this Q too

Steve Chan

01:27:16

@susan, do you mean because there are concerns and divergence?

Susan Payne

01:27:21

yes steve

Steve Chan

01:28:09

I think that’s up for you all to decide if it matters, whether the distinction matters for your consideration?

martinsutton

01:30:38

I think we have muddled the comment/commentor on that item Susan

martinsutton

01:30:47

Checking now

Steve Chan

01:31:00

Having the Concerns does not remove the Divergence?

Marita Moll

01:31:05

line 74 -- divergence although there is also an explanation

Robin Gross

01:31:27

I would say that NCSG’s comment in #72 is closer to a “Qualified Agreement” (rather than simple Agreement) in order to not lose the point made.

Greg Shatan

01:31:28

Is there also “carefree” divergence?

Greg Shatan

01:31:51

Divergence is always indicative of concerns, is it not/

Alexander Schubert

01:31:59

How do you spell "Kafka"?

David McAuley

01:32:00

I have to leave for another matter, thanks Annebeth and all

Greg Shatan

01:32:01

So we don’t need to say it.

Greg Shatan

01:32:30

Kafka, Esq.

jaap

01:32:33

I have to drop off for an other call.

jaap

01:32:43

Bye

Alexander Schubert

01:32:46

Esquire?

PMcGrady

01:33:32

Is this call 60 minutes or 90? It is in my calendar as 60.

christopher wilkinson

01:33:33

Do these subtleties matter? If the staff summary is ambiguous it is enough to click on the original comment. Comments made on the List or in WT5 Calls carry as much wiethg

christopher wilkinson

01:33:42

Weight

Susan Payne

01:34:00

90 paul

Justine Chew

01:34:04

Looking at it now

PMcGrady

01:34:44

Thanks.

Robin Gross

01:34:52

If agreement is purely conditional, I think it important to note that.

Steve Chan

01:35:46

@Martin, we will go through the document and try to make sure any other BRG/RrSG mis-assignments are fixed

martinsutton

01:36:10

Hoorah!

martinsutton

01:36:19

Well done everyone

PMcGrady

01:36:38

Let's hang up quickly before....

christopher wilkinson

01:36:42

Brilliant chairmanship!

Nick Wenban-Smith, Nominet

01:36:58

well done Annebeth!

Arasteh

01:37:16

It is good that people are happy

Kristine Dorrain (Amazon Registry)

01:38:05

I agree Susan

Marita Moll

01:38:20

We could call the ALAC comment Agreement (qualified)

Robin Gross

01:38:35

#73 says “According, the RrSG does not support” so that is just the conclusion, not a separate comment.

Alexander Schubert

01:38:52

Indeed well done Annabeth!

Justine Chew

01:38:55

Sorry, I got kicked out of Zoom

christopher wilkinson

01:39:22

PRTICIP

Robin Gross

01:39:25

#73 is Only Divergence (not also concerns)

christopher wilkinson

01:39:48

Participants do not have scrolling rights. Correct?

Arasteh

01:40:02

I DISAGREE

Justine Chew

01:40:15

f.2.4 Line 87/8 ALAC comment should be Agreement (Qualified) + Concerns

Marita Moll

01:40:19

NO scrolling rights -- very frustrating

Arasteh

01:40:19

iAM DISCONNECTED

Arasteh

01:40:34

Sorry fior CAP

Susan Payne

01:41:02

also 50 and 51

Robin Gross

01:41:32

#72 from NCSG is a CONDITIONAL Agreement

Robin Gross

01:41:40

I’m not on audio

Susan Payne

01:41:47

34 aND 35

Robin Gross

01:42:15

Yes, it is conditional agreement.

Robin Gross

01:42:22

Thank you.

Susan Payne

01:42:28

AND 50 AND 51

Susan Payne

01:42:34

sorry for caps

Arasteh

01:42:39

am disconnected

christopher wilkinson

01:42:40

There is nothing wrong with expanding the scope of approval, non-objection.

Andrea Glandon

01:42:49

@kavouss, calling you back

Susan Payne

01:45:51

Thanks Steve that helps

Andrea Glandon

01:47:14

@kavouss, I do show that you line is connected and unmuted from my end

Raymond Mamattah

01:47:20

No please from me

Marita Moll

01:47:56

Leaving now. Bye.

Justine Chew

01:48:11

Do we have any more open topics?

Greg Shatan

01:48:12

No concerned, divergent ideas please.

Robin Gross

01:48:43

Agree that it is good to spend time on the difficult issues in Marrakech.

Raymond Mamattah

01:49:19

Hope those of us who cant make it to ICANN 65 can join virtually

martinsutton

01:50:03

Remote access will be available for WT5 meetings at ICANN

Raymond Mamattah

01:50:30

okay. no travel opportunities to ICANN 65?

Susan Payne

01:52:56

good to know the last 15 minutes are soapbox time

Greg Shatan

01:53:12

The TLD space was never intended to be a gazetteer or an atlas.

PMcGrady

01:53:16

Silence does not equal assent.

Robin Gross

01:53:31

Right, Paul. Same.

Susan Payne

01:53:37

Quite Paul

Greg Shatan

01:53:37

I am assuming that silence is disagreement in this case.

Steve Chan

01:53:59

Next call is currently scheduled for: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 05:00 UTC for 90 minutes

PMcGrady

01:54:19

@Steve, please note the next meeting is in the middle of the INTA meeting.

Robin Gross

01:54:26

Thanks, Annabeth and Martin. Bye!

Griffin Barnett

01:54:26

+1 Paul, Susan

Susan Payne

01:54:27

thanks Annebeth

Ejikeme Egbuogu

01:54:30

bye everyone

martinsutton

01:54:32

Bye all, thank you

Raymond Mamattah

01:54:32

Thank you and greetings from Ghana

Steve Chan

01:54:32

Thanks Paul

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