Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Thursday, 01 August 2019
a body to count but i will say very little
am I counting correctly that we only have 5 non staff/leadership particpants?
6 I think, FWIW
Aw, thanks, Steve....
you all count in my eyes ;)
Just on the topic of revising nomenclature of "Global South", there has been a recent suggestion from an At-Large member, to consider an objective measure available under the UNDP Human Development Index @https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index.
Along the lines of human development level.
@Justine, I was looking to see if we missed that reference, but I think I misunderstood. That discussion is recent, correct?
@Steve, I just raised it :)
Extremely recent :)
@Steve, yes, just now :)
Yes, will share with Mary
The communities using IDN might be the next bucket of supported applicants
but the support request should have a justification
would it too complicated to consider both methods -- buckets for IDN applications and evaluation based on meritocracy for other applications?
Will the SARP be reconstituted? Do we have to consider a recommendation on this? Along with its procedures?
Avri has disappeared
could you repost the link to the Google Doc?
I am more concerned with possible additional cost during the application process apart from application fee, such as those associated with undergoing contention resolution (auction) if contention set arises.
a year of perations costs more than the fee of last time
in a very very cheap setup
correction; * operations
yeah - application is but one part of the cost of doing this. its the ongoing costs that need to be planned for
Operational viability could be somewhat established through the Financial aspect of the ASP criteria. Bundle partnerships.
and the only other part of expenses we can talk about is ongoing quarterly[current payments design] fees (I doubt that ICANN should pay to the registry)
and even this - is an effective ‘payment’
and if approved this would be a growing sink (10year registry contracts)
Such as a deferment or waiver of recurring fees based on registration numbers?
@Justine, actually the current fees design - up to 50k domains is flat rate of 25k USD
and the 50001st domain ‘cost’ is around 12k USD (model turns to a formula from RA)
@Maxim, sure, I mean on top of the current fees design. Just a thought.
@Justine, if a Registry has more than 50k domains, most probably it does not need additional support
Just a thought, @Maxim, just a thought.
so aside from the Indian Government, it appears that there is no other support for continued financial support for applicants beyond the application fees. Is that a fair assessment?
good I thought JAS was JAS advisors (Name Collision delay inventors)
@Jim - I suppose the BC comment does suggest support for something related to application prep but not app fees
hand up from Heather
Thanks Julie and Steve
Good point, im
Support should continue to extend beyond simply financial. ICANN’s approach should include mentorship on the management, operational and technical aspects of running a registry such as existing registries/registrars within the region to develop in-house expertise to help ensure a viable business for the long term.
Is it perhaps that we're looking at "new ideas", and not at points of agreement?
thanks, Steve- extremely helpful
Thanks @Steve, I thought I saw ICANN registry-level fees somewhere.
Again, the precise wording of Jim's comment is: so aside from the Indian Government, it appears that there is no other support for continued financial support for applicants beyond the application fees. Is that a fair assessment?
@CLO, what about "ICANN registry-level fees"?
emphasis: continued financial support for applicants beyond the application fees
Yes I see that @Heather we do need to be secific and use clear language in this at this point...
Thanks for the emphasis Heather
such ongoing support might lead to a situation with creation of ‘ICANN subsidized’ regitries, which is dangerous from the Anti-Monopoly Agencies perspective
where all policies effectively set by ICANN, which looks quite similar to ‘historically based monopoly’
Just stepping away from the computer for 5 minutes, will be back
So two levels of ASP application fee reduction?
At least that’s my read
Okay, noted, thanks
EFGHI?? New ICANN Acronym?
It was in jest response to Cheryl's ABCD :)
will have hard stop in 15min
Sorry, all - I'm back
@Cheryl, hand from Kathy if you’ve not noticed.
Do we need to talk about funding next meeting?
Funding is key
bye all and thanks!
NEXT CALL: Tuesday, 06 August 2019 at 03:00 UTC 90 minutes
Thanks all, have a good weekend.