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Rudi Daniel
17:31
Good day all.
Julie Bisland
17:53
Welcome to the CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call on Wednesday, 18 September 2019 at 14:00 UTC
Marika Konings
18:19
Nothing urgent, Erika
Marika Konings
19:53
Unfortunately, no scrolling in zoom
Marika Konings
22:38
Please note on this item, staff will double check to make sure that the language included that is derived from the Board input is verbatim.
Vanda's Scartezini
23:17
I am ok with this text
Marika Konings
23:24
page 12 is part of a section that covers the Board’s input, it is not part of the CCWG’s responses to the charter questions or recommendations (which uses the ‘consistent with’ language)
Carolina Caeiro
23:49
I am ok with this too
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
24:40
Im good with including the quote from the Board
Marilyn Cade
24:45
I am okay with this inclusion in this section as it is about the Board’s input.
Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
26:27
Ditto
Rudi Daniel
26:29
Quote from Board as inclusion seems fine.
Marika Konings
32:51
Nope
Emily Barabas
34:47
“Consistently with the intended purpose of auction proceeds as stated in the Applicant Guidebook, the general use of the auction proceeds should exclude the funding of any ICANN on-going operational activities. The auction proceeds are funds that result from circumstances that are unpredictable as to their occurrence, repetition, extent and sustainability. As a result, they can not support the management of on-going activities, which require predictable and sustainable funding.”
Emily Barabas
35:04
Proposed text to include on page 22
Carolina Caeiro
38:05
and *cannot as opposed to can not
Emily Barabas
38:33
With Marilyn’s suggested edit: “Consistent with the intended purpose of auction proceeds as stated in the Applicant Guidebook, the general use of the auction proceeds should exclude the funding of any ICANN Org’s on-going operational activities. The auction proceeds are funds that result from circumstances that are unpredictable as to their occurrence, repetition, extent and sustainability. As a result, they can not support the management of on-going activities, which require predictable and sustainable funding.”
Vanda's Scartezini
40:31
agree with Xavier clarification - the text is ok for me
Marilyn Cade
40:35
Excellent example, Erika, as an exceptional update to the Root Servers is clearly consistent with ICANN’s mission. And, of course, ICANN Org, as one RS operator, would need to participate.
Sossou Yao Amevi Amessinou
43:07
the text is ok for me too
Nadira AL-ARAJ
44:33
yes Chang, that is the importance of mechanism C.
Marilyn Cade
44:36
I think it would be very difficult for ICANN to receive Auction Funds under Mechanism A and B. One reason that the CSG has been favoring Mechanism C is to have more independence, and I agree with Ching’s comments.
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
44:46
The new text explains that Org would only access auction funds due to unusual/unpredictable circumstances. Im Ok with the inclusion of this text.
Vanda's Scartezini
49:07
i am in agreement with Ching here
Emily Barabas
52:31
I can speak to this, Erika
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
52:38
I agree with Erika to check if the new text applies to Mechanisms a,b and c
Emily Barabas
52:55
And then turn it over to Xavier
Sossou Yao Amevi Amessinou
55:11
in my point of view mechanism B may be suitable
Erika Mann
55:11
I saw your comment too late Emily!
Emily Barabas
55:23
No problem, Erika
Sam Lanfranco
59:52
I am in transit. will listen and comment on transcript. Best I can do today.
Erika Mann
01:01:52
Understood Sam L.
Vanda Scartezini
01:05:32
agree - make it clearer
Xavier Calvez
01:05:53
@Emily: i will review the text in the draft document to ensure it is clear and complete.
Emily Barabas
01:06:19
Thank you, Xavier
Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
01:06:22
As I wrote in email, I am concerned it opens another pandora's box of definitions
Carolina Caeiro
01:07:28
+1
Carolina Caeiro
01:07:41
I am too concerned that it does not sound clear
Carolina Caeiro
01:08:28
Dear all I must disconnect for the next 30 mins, will try to reconnect for the end of the session
Julie Bisland
01:08:53
Thank you, Carolina
Sossou Yao Amevi Amessinou
01:09:52
@julf raised a very important issue as well. can we try to clarify as much as possible anything pertaining to all the definition on the final draft?
Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
01:09:58
isn't it included in ICANNs mission?
Becky Burr
01:11:54
The work going on now is to create a framework for determining - in context - whether the GPI is being served in connection with a specific policy or recommendation
Nadira AL-ARAJ
01:12:07
exactly that what I was thinking off @Julf
Becky Burr
01:12:08
There is no effort to “define” the GPI in a static way -
Marilyn Cade
01:12:22
Yes, Becky, understood.
Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
01:12:33
I am OK with the proposal, but we will probably face the debate anyway
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:12:37
Public interest is in ICANN's mission already
Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
01:12:56
Maureen +1
Becky Burr
01:13:37
Apologies all, I must drop off now.
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:13:57
But the current discussions and the toolkit will hopefully clarify its position within the mission
Marilyn Cade
01:14:35
Taking into account the development of discussions related to developing a public interest framework
Samantha Eisner
01:15:54
The Board’s reply should be coming shortly.
Samantha Eisner
01:16:10
The ICANN org response will follow after that
APNIC Foundation
01:19:55
Hi everyone. Sorry to join so late. MAG meeting just finished.
Marilyn Cade
01:21:51
Sure, Erika. That works well.
Samantha Eisner
01:21:52
I think that the response already touches a bit on the questions that Marilyn just raised
Marilyn Cade
01:22:09
I agree, Sam, it seemed implicit.
Mary Uduma
01:22:34
Hello All, I am sorry to be late was in another meeting.
Julie Bisland
01:25:01
Welcome, Mary
Sossou Yao Amevi Amessinou
01:29:18
welcome, Mary
Vanda Scartezini
01:41:44
would be good if we can have a preference after the first survey
Marilyn Cade
01:42:19
Helpful, Marika, to explain that consensus is indeed complex to “detect”. Thanks for that.
Nadira AL-ARAJ
01:42:21
seems this practice is been done by other groups
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:42:48
Thanks for that explanation, Marika
Vanda Scartezini
01:43:34
yeah thanks for the explanation Marika
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:46:35
@Marika - can we all access an updated version of the report for discussion with our groups
Stephen Deerhake
01:48:27
+1 Maureen. I need a URL for the ccNSO so they can go look at it if they wish.
Emily Barabas
01:49:36
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/115641432/new%20gTLD%20AP%20CCWG%20Draft%20Final%20Report%20-%20updated%2017%20September%202019_clean.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1568749041000&api=v2
Emily Barabas
01:49:51
This is the version circulated with the agenda for this call
Marika Konings
01:51:35
There are still some updates to be made, but we will share the ‘final’ version together with the launch of the survey
Stephen Deerhake
01:51:46
Willing to wait until we have a "final" report.
Stephen Deerhake
01:52:07
I think we have a moral responsibility to submit this back to the Community for comment.
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:52:31
@Marika.. happy to wait for the version with the updated text
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:53:10
I too would like At-Large to see what we are looking at as a final report
Marilyn Cade
01:56:06
Isn’t the question of a second public comment period up to the CCWG-AP to recommend?
Marika Konings
01:57:01
@Marilyn - correct
Vanda Scartezini
01:57:04
yeah Samantha. thanks to make it clear
Stephen Deerhake
01:58:15
Good point Samantha. Can we basically "lock down" this report prior to submitting it to the Board to avoid the endless cycle?
Stephen Deerhake
01:58:44
s/to the Board/to the Community/
Nadira AL-ARAJ
01:59:21
yes in agreement for public comments on the redline text
Sylvia Cadena
02:01:07
Yes, please. Really important Erika
Erika Mann
02:04:54
Xavier!!!
Sylvia Cadena
02:05:50
Bye everyone
Stephen Deerhake
02:05:54
Bye all!
Nadira AL-ARAJ
02:05:56
Thank you Erika
Rudi Daniel
02:05:57
thank you so much. bye
Vanda Scartezini
02:05:58
thanks to you alll