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Julie Bisland's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Julie Bisland
24:23
Welcome to the GNSO Drafting Team call on Thursday, 26 September 2019 at 21:00 UTC.
Ariel Liang
26:22
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YYeAMR5J7a4zN2zTE4LA_hp7sLynsKIqUnQgMWccAy4/edit
David McAuley (Verisign)
28:13
I see that and agree with Heather's description despite also joining her and wishing it was otherwise
Steve DelBianco
28:22
Same here
Steve DelBianco
28:45
I missed that insurer of 2016 mayhem
Steve DelBianco
29:05
I missed that issue during the Summer of 2016 bylaws drafting mayhem
Heather Forrest
29:21
I'm sure we all missed a lot of issues then.
Heather Forrest
29:27
To be discovered as we go...
David McAuley (Verisign)
29:45
Steve, my recollection is that Annex D was such an opus that it came out late in process and there was not much time to review it
Steve DelBianco
29:57
The ICANN community is all interest registrants and users. So that’s not limiting. We’d have to say “member of an AC/SO” to limit things.
Julie Bisland
30:53
Welcome Maxim!
Maxim Alzoba
31:16
it is bit late, so will speak with low voice
David McAuley (Verisign)
31:32
coffee, Maxim, coffee
Maxim Alzoba
32:07
my son has to go to school , so no coffee for him
Heather Forrest
33:35
I'm afraid of interpreting "individual" as "human being" because what happens if a commercial entity files a petition (of course with a human being doing so on its behalf)?
Maxim Alzoba
34:42
some person usually does it on behalf of the legal body
Heather Forrest
35:00
Yes, agreed
Maxim Alzoba
35:07
powers given either by title or power of attorney letter of sorts
Maxim Alzoba
35:36
a person representing an organization or themselvs
Maxim Alzoba
35:38
persons
David McAuley (Verisign)
36:13
I agree with Steve on the point - individual can be anyone
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
36:51
agreed
David McAuley (Verisign)
37:41
the note might also cite this call along with Hetaher's points
David McAuley (Verisign)
37:50
Heather, that is
David McAuley (Verisign)
38:53
I agree with Heather on the humn point - if a bot was engaged it would become apparent, probably quite quickly
David McAuley (Verisign)
39:02
human - a bit late here
Maxim Alzoba
39:13
bylaws has “individual or organization” words , so it is not the same
Maxim Alzoba
39:53
anyway, formally, if a person (like secretary sends petition from the organization) it is an individual
David McAuley (Verisign)
40:09
I think bylaws ay just individual, Maxim, at least on this point
David McAuley (Verisign)
40:25
say, not ay
Maxim Alzoba
42:48
+1
David McAuley (Verisign)
44:43
I think not - other procedurers will eat up days
David McAuley (Verisign)
45:17
I think the GNSO will have to vcreate a special mail box to Council and use that - a special address will alert Council that this is important
Heather Forrest
46:31
Shall we add a sentence: The clock starts when the petition is received by Council
Heather Forrest
47:35
I suppose since we have said "for transmission to the GNSO Council" obliges the SG/C to do just that
Maxim Alzoba
47:50
apostilled and wet ink signed , delivered personally :)
Ariel Liang
48:05
Actually, we have sentence about when the clock start. It is in 4.2.1: “The date when the GNSO Council receives a Petition marks the beginning of the Nominating Committee Director Removal Petition Period”
David McAuley (Verisign)
49:20
sure
Julie Hedlund
50:41
“Such a petition must be submitted to the GNSO, as a Decisional Participant, to its representative body, the GNSO Council. This can occur via an SG/C or directly.”
Maxim Alzoba
52:23
each SG has own charter, and actions should not violate those
David McAuley (Verisign)
53:55
why not say delivery via an SG must be accompanied by a copy to council at same time
Maxim Alzoba
54:14
then why sending to SG at all?
David McAuley (Verisign)
54:24
to let SG weigh in on it
David McAuley (Verisign)
54:50
or alert theoir members
Maxim Alzoba
55:15
we can not prohibit CC anyone, but it is ‘for informational purposes only’
David McAuley (Verisign)
55:21
ok with that
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
55:34
ok
Steve DelBianco
55:34
good
Maxim Alzoba
55:37
yes, sending to GNSO Council +1
David McAuley (Verisign)
55:53
sufficient
David McAuley (Verisign)
56:22
seems a good approach
Maxim Alzoba
56:24
I think so
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
56:24
sufficient
Maxim Alzoba
58:17
I think all sides have readings , and we are doing this for GNSO Council
Heather Forrest
58:46
So similar logic to our note on "individual"
Steve DelBianco
01:01:10
I really like the parenthetical note by Ariel. I think we leave that IN THE PROCEDURES
Steve DelBianco
01:01:46
Don’t make people go find a transcript!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:02:15
agreed - we can include url when available
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:02:19
yes
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:02:24
+1
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:36
+1
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:10
it is going to be another +1 hour call in 20min :(
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:03:19
Let's have an annex d party at some time
Ariel Liang
01:03:28
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g-FNo2qm0Ohc6osJJ20sud1O5yDg9xv1v5Ux0n9Z9Ic/edit
Ariel Liang
01:03:55
LOL David
Steve DelBianco
01:05:10
good
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:05:17
+1
Heather Forrest
01:05:49
I think it makes sense to go back and sanity check
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:35
yes
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:45
it is hard to compose words of letters
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:50
at this moment
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:09:14
agreed
Ariel Liang
01:09:15
hahaha
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:10:24
yes
Ariel Liang
01:10:27
It is mainly 2.2(b) that we want to double check
Julie Hedlund
01:11:17
I can put it in the action items too.
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:11:30
good, thanks Julie
Maxim Alzoba
01:12:01
I will have to drop the call in 6 min
Heather Forrest
01:12:54
Yes, it's me who made the changes in the motion templates, when I was misguided
Ariel Liang
01:13:30
Yep, 2.2/2.3. 3.1/3.2/3.3 all need to be checked :)
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:15:40
none here
Steve DelBianco
01:15:43
I’m good
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:15:53
Thanks Heather
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:16
bye all
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:16:51
Thanks and bye
Ariel Liang
01:16:55
Thanks all!
Julie Hedlund
01:16:55
Thanks Heather and everyone!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:16:58
Thanks Heather, Julie, Ariel, Steve and Wolf-Ulrich and good bye