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Leon Sanchez (chair)
17:39
Hi Thomas!
Leon Sanchez (chair)
17:46
Did you do your homework? :P
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
18:04
I did. last week already!
Caitlin Tubergen
18:07
Thomas did his homework - the agenda is updated accordingly. That was my fault - I missed it. :)
Leon Sanchez (chair)
18:17
Excellent @Thomas!
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
18:36
I did not mess things up - for once :-)
Leon Sanchez (chair)
25:24
Yes, for once Thomas! :D
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
30:30
Can sufficient safeguards being in place shield CPs from risk in case of unlawful disclosures
Brian King (IPC)
30:43
My hand is up
Brian King (IPC)
30:50
and this could fit nicely in #1
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
31:41
@Brian: I do not seek the elimination of any abuse, I seek the elimination of and risk to CPs of being fined
Laureen Kapin (GAC)
31:42
Building on prior comments, I think we need to speak in terms of what level of risk rather than eliminating liability.
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
31:58
Any risk
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
31:59
+1 Laureen
Brian King (IPC)
32:04
Got ya, Volker.
Margie Milam (BC)
32:06
+l Laureen
Brian King (IPC)
32:10
and agreed with Laureen
Caitlin Tubergen
32:43
what risk or liability, if any, would the CP face for the processing activity of disclosure in this context, including risk of a third party abusing or circumventing the safeguards?
Caitlin Tubergen
32:58
repeating what Brian suggested
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
33:16
I like tyhat
Margie Milam (BC)
33:20
yes
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
33:21
+1
Brian King (IPC)
33:22
Thanks, Caitlin.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
33:26
+1
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
33:27
OK
Caitlin Tubergen
33:38
ha! I was just repeating what Brian and Volker said. :)
Brian King (IPC)
34:12
Thanks guys
Brian King (IPC)
34:13
all good
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
36:48
Thank you thomas & volker
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
37:50
both
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
40:38
agreed
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
41:05
Thanks Brian
Brian King (IPC)
43:15
I'd like to keep Batch 1 really focused
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
43:28
Why not have it with the first batch? It is almost ready
Caitlin Tubergen
46:27
Yes.
Brian King (IPC)
47:05
To be clear, I'm happy for the LEA question to go with Batch 1 if we can get it done asap. I am happy to work diligently to get it done.
Leon Sanchez (chair)
47:15
Thanks Brian!
Caitlin Tubergen
47:37
Thanks, Brian! If we want an answer for the F2F, it will need to go in Batch 1.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
49:54
Happy to work with you, Brian and Volker, at very short notice to get the questions ready to go.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
52:12
Also, on Q11 - recital 49 states that the processing must be „strictly necessary and proportionate for the purpose“ That is not unlimited access. So the question does seem to contradict the spirit of recital 49.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
53:17
I agree we should try to shed light on this area, so we should ask questions and find out what can be done.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
53:56
but I think that security practitioners can only ask for data that is strictly needed and proportionate, and not for unlimited access.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
54:13
I am afraid that if we ask the question as is, the answer will just be „no“.
Margie Milam (BC)
58:23
yes
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
58:27
Sure
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
58:49
Sure Happy to
Brian King (IPC)
58:52
As a glutton for punishment, I'd be happy to contribute
Brian King (IPC)
01:04:16
I'm not good at lowering it
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:06:55
I am only talking about the automation of the decisiosn making
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
01:08:00
Automated decision-making is something that comes up with the security cases (large-scale + fast processing). So SSAC has this as a concern; others may not.
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
01:08:41
If we’re not ready with that item, though, then that’s a logistical question.
Margie Milam (BC)
01:09:18
+1 Tara
Brian King (IPC)
01:10:42
Thanks Matthew, agreed.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:11:22
Ok
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
01:11:40
I can provide SSAC language if that helps?
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
01:12:01
Happy to work with Hadia.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:12:04
sure
Brian King (IPC)
01:15:30
thanks all
Brian King (IPC)
01:15:33
productive as usual
Tara Whalen (SSAC)
01:15:38
Thanks!
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:15:42
Thanks all bye