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Ariel Liang
35:15
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WRKL_3JfzWtRIBmutxthyaEtO6yjrn9XtgImWaB0eZk/edit#
David McAuley (Verisign)
35:39
sorry to be late
Ariel Liang
38:58
Link again for those arrived later: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WRKL_3JfzWtRIBmutxthyaEtO6yjrn9XtgImWaB0eZk/edit#
Maxim Alzoba
39:19
Do I understand it right that the situations where TMCH is not working properly and it results in not issuing Claims - is going to be reviewed in the TMCH part? (Sep 2019)
Maxim Alzoba
42:48
Claims are after sunrise
Maxim Alzoba
43:00
and SDRP is for Sunrise
julie.hedlund
46:52
@Greg — is that a new hand?
Susan Payne (for SCA)
47:24
yes, TMCH should in relation to the elements of the SDRP requirements that are better within the remit of the TMCH
Sonigitu Ekpe
49:01
Greetings all from Nigeria
Kathy Kleiman
50:17
Some registries in our survey reported a few SDRPs
Kathy Kleiman
50:21
but without details
David McAuley (Verisign)
50:30
Agree with Greg, cannot speak up as mic is bad and phone needs rechharging
julie.hedlund
55:13
@All: I need to drop and rejoin on computer audio.
Julie Bisland
56:21
Please mute
Ariel Liang
56:22
Please mute your phone if you are not speaking
Greg Shatan
56:53
Envious of those going to the beach...
Julie Hedlund
59:44
@All: Note that Q12 also relates to Q8.
Julie Hedlund
01:00:37
@Brian: That’s correct.
Scott Austin
01:05:14
Agree with Greg.
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:05:41
Does seem a fair question/comment
Julie Hedlund
01:09:16
@Greg and all: Staff is making a note of this suggestion. Although it’s not our understanding that these should be stricken (as they do reflect the deliberations), but that the answers may need to be deferred to SubPro.
Marie Pattullo
01:10:31
Can we add a question in the proposals for commuity input: do you think this should better sit in SubPro?
Greg Shatan
01:10:35
I understand why the Charter Questions were on our plate, because of the interaction. But any resolution is outside our remit.
Marie Pattullo
01:10:50
*community
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:10:50
\I agree with both Greg and Kathy – we have had this for a while. Why not ask the questions and in meantime notify sub pro that we have launch program questions out that evolved from our work the answers to which we might refer to them
Kathy Kleiman
01:11:13
Makes sense David
Greg Shatan
01:12:42
I’m okay with us asking the questions, since we have the report going out. But we should send the results over to Sub Pro to deal with. Scope creep doesn’t get better with age....
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:58
I suggest we do not use this example to avoid situation where RPMs are undermining Public Interest
Kathy Kleiman
01:17:02
We even talked about needs of local trademark owners,
Kathy Kleiman
01:17:06
e.g., in .MOSCOW
Kathy Kleiman
01:17:25
it's a matter of balance, I think
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:12
yes, in our case it was a special period to protect interests of locally registered TMs (for clarity, reserved lists were for Governmental LRP, and local TMs did not have anything better than what is left after Sunrise with TMCH TMs)
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:51
and to say more, Governmental period was after Local TMs, locally registered licensed media
Kathy Kleiman
01:19:26
Maxim and Kristine drafted these questions and guided us through the discussion.
Kathy Kleiman
01:19:53
+1 Susan
Maxim Alzoba
01:20:00
ALP did not work at all - the only case was .madrid
Maxim Alzoba
01:22:38
QLP was 100, and it was not enough for a typical city with more than few hundreds streets/monuments/public services
Susan Payne (for SCA)
01:22:43
@Maxim, I agree that the time tyo get an ALP seems to have been too long, but we're all making assumptions about whay that is without any real knowledge. The fact is that the ALP process exists. If procedurally the application process does not work well, then that's something to understand
Susan Payne (for SCA)
01:22:55
sorry for typos
Maxim Alzoba
01:23:42
@Susan, the information about it was delivered in full in F2F meeting by CORE, Abril Abril .. the ALP process does not work as intended, not transparent and not predictable
Maxim Alzoba
01:26:29
Could we scroll up?
Susan Payne (for SCA)
01:27:01
sure maxim, but at that point they didn't have an ALP. That session was a long time ago, and they clearly continued with the process
Kathy Kleiman
01:27:49
Question 12?
Julie Hedlund
01:28:02
@Kathy: Q12 was covered with Q8 as they are related.
Ariel Liang
01:28:03
Q12 was reviewed earlier right after Q8
Maxim Alzoba
01:28:05
@Susan, I mentioned that for the registry doing nothing is not zero expenses, it is paying large bills, and not many organizations can do that for years without going bankrupt
Susan Payne (for SCA)
01:28:30
Maxim I don't think I'm disagreeing with you
Kathy Kleiman
01:28:37
Tx Ariel
Ariel Liang
01:28:48
Np Kathy
Greg Shatan
01:33:19
I got bounced out of Zoom and had to reboot my iPad. I’m back....
Julie Hedlund
01:35:17
hand up from Greg
Ariel Liang
01:35:34
and a hand up from staff
Kathy Kleiman
01:35:35
Tx you to David and Greg, the Subt4eam Co-Chairs!
Greg Shatan
01:35:38
What am I, chopped liver
Paul Tattersfield
01:35:39
Can we make time for the WG to loop back and look at some of the URS individual submissions at some point?
Kathy Kleiman
01:35:44
Tx you, Brian!
Kathy Kleiman
01:36:02
Tx you, Subteam!
Julie Hedlund
01:36:15
LOL Greg
Julie Hedlund
01:39:58
Hands up from David and Maxim
Greg Shatan
01:40:50
I suggest putting “proof of” before “use” in the proposed answer, for clarification purposes.
Maxim Alzoba
01:43:54
will help ‘abuse of who , whose rights and documented by whom’? I think more than one party could do that
Greg Shatan
01:43:57
The “enumerated rules” are in 2.2.3 of the TMCH guidelines, entitled “Proof of use/Additional Information related to Sunrise Eligibility Requirements”
Julie Hedlund
01:44:49
@All: Ariel is trying to capture the changes on the fly
Maxim Alzoba
01:44:58
TMCH can follow the standard only when TMCH servers are available
Michael Karanicolas
01:45:45
I’m fine with the language here - as edited now.
Maxim Alzoba
01:45:54
@Greg, do you meant designation of the particular TLD and proof of use relevant to that?
Maxim Alzoba
01:46:06
did you mean
Greg Shatan
01:46:54
Please put “the” before enumerated.
Ariel Liang
01:47:16
Thanks you
Julie Hedlund
01:47:34
hand up from staff
Greg Shatan
01:47:50
I will change my name to AAA Greg Shatan to be first on the list.
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:48:08
Very kind, Kathy, thank you
Greg Shatan
01:48:15
My pleasure!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:48:35
Thank you
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:48:38
Brian
Kathy Kleiman
01:48:40
Right -- all four Subteam Co-Chairs and both Subteams!!
Philip Corwin
01:48:45
Thanks as well to the ST co-chairs and members for hard work and good work product!
Kathy Kleiman
01:48:47
Tx!!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:49:02
The sun never set on sunrise
Greg Shatan
01:49:08
Thanks to staff and to the co-chairs for their support throughout, and to the subteam members!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:49:17
+1 @Greg
Maxim Alzoba
01:49:24
+1
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:49:46
+1000, that is
Paul Tattersfield
01:50:25
Agreed very good work, thank you to all the sub team members for all the hard work
Greg Shatan
01:51:27
Finishing ahead of time and under budget!
Kathy Kleiman
01:51:43
:-)
Scott Austin
01:51:50
Thanks Brian, Bye everyone.
Susan Payne (for SCA)
01:51:51
thanks!
Paul Tattersfield
01:51:58
thanks all bye
Marie Pattullo
01:51:59
Thanks all!
Greg Shatan
01:51:59
Bye all!
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:52:02
Thanks Julie, good bye all
Maxim Alzoba
01:52:10
bye all