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Evolving ICANN's MSM - Webinars. - Shared screen with speaker view
Mark Datysgeld
49:21
Brian, can you at some point guide us through how Issue 7 evolved from the community saying ICANN is too difficult and impenetrable into being about governmental intervention (as is outlined in the pdf)?
eleeza.agopian
51:05
Thanks @Mark. We’ve shared the question with Brian. He may want to address when he gets to Issue 7 in the presentation.
Mark Datysgeld
53:32
complexi56
Mark Datysgeld
53:44
* complexity
Alan Greenberg
57:02
@Cheryl, yes, but I was talking about AC/SOlevel work.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
59:48
Excellent!!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:05:10
I lost zoom briefly sorry
Judith Hellerstein
01:11:45
I agree that the possible solutions listed are not really solutions in my mind.
Judith Hellerstein
01:12:13
they are just avenues to bring new people in but not a way to get people more engaged
Judith Hellerstein
01:13:34
I think Respect is very important and should not be overlooked
Judith Hellerstein
01:15:24
I think it is the last two
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:15:37
Perhaps some out of the box thinking where perhaps Fellowshop recipients and Next Gen or new Leadership need to work accross ALL parts of ICANN in a mini apprentice or journeyman period before settling n somewhweer
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:16:03
settling in somewhere
Mark Datysgeld
01:17:00
Cheryl, often that ends up happening as part of the journey of trying to fit in, but adopting it as a core value would be good.
Alan Greenberg
01:21:29
There is a distinct presumption im MANY cases that those with who you do not agree PRESUME that you have no knowledge of their needs, not care about their needs.
Alan Greenberg
01:21:49
not = nor
Tom Dale
01:22:44
Empathy is often in short supply.
Alan Greenberg
01:24:01
@Tom, even when it IS there, it is presumed not to be.
Alan Greenberg
01:28:36
There is a STRONG reluctance to make scope changes.
Alan Greenberg
01:29:16
Sub. Proc is *THE* example where we have put ourselves in the kettle of oil!
Alan Greenberg
01:29:26
by wide scoping.
Alan Greenberg
01:31:15
What will work well for SPec Reviews will NOT work for PDPs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:32:45
Exactly Allan scoping has to be fot for purpose
Judith Hellerstein
01:34:42
I agree with alan here
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:35:16
Deffinatly Alan
Tom Dale
01:37:29
If there are no consequences for failing to reach consensus (other than starting again) the problem will not go away.
Amal Al-saqqaf
01:38:35
maybe as u mentioned, the combination of ICANN org, board, and community should make an agreed upon protocol for consensus and other community interactions
Judith Hellerstein
01:39:03
How will you work the next session
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:39:10
Thanks Brian and everyone, lots more to do of course but we continue on...
Judith Hellerstein
01:39:21
will it cover the next topics?
Alan Greenberg
01:39:22
Too bad participant/Staff ration on this call is so low.
Tom Dale
01:40:15
Thank you
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:40:23
keeping the conversation going *is* essential
theresa.swinehart
01:40:44
@Alan, agree, please do reach out to your communities and stakeholders to join the next call, and / or listen to the recording.
theresa.swinehart
01:41:04
thank you all!
Hanan Khatib
01:41:06
thank you. bye