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Julf Helsingius (NCSG)
29:54
Long time no see...
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
31:29
I've missed you so much...
Gina Bartlett (CBI)
35:08
Hello everyone!
Matt Serlin (RrSG)
35:19
Gina’s back!!!!
Terri Agnew
36:04
finding the line
Ben Butler (SSAC)
36:05
Welcome back Gina!
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
40:11
could we see and enlarge the diagram a bit
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
42:08
ok thanks
Terri Agnew
42:41
Both documents are also posted on the wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/EY3kBg
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
43:07
Thnak you Marika and terri
Steve DelBianco (BC)
48:02
Building Block c is about identifying the requestor, and doesn’t imply automated access response. What’s your objection to that, Milton?
Ashley Heineman (GAC)
48:40
+1 on Marc's compliments to staff in doing this.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
49:03
@Milton what is building block C
Steve DelBianco (BC)
50:31
@Hadia — see page 5 of the zero draft
Berry Cobb
51:25
Valid point Marc. The Parking lot in the swimlane diagram is thin. I'll be doing an inventory of pollicy topics that we had identified in early stages of our work against the project plan to make sure we cover them all. Marika got most.
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
51:48
Yes, I agree that staff have done a noble job on coming up with this draft.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
52:47
@Milton that is what I thought too - You meant the users groups, I didn't get though the reason for that
Marika Konings
54:38
We’ll also make sure that the survey has the option to identify topics that are not covered in the zero draft.
Chris Disspain (ICANN Board Liaison)
55:50
hello again - sadly, again, I have to drop of the EPDP call to attend a Board call - apologies…
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:00:14
It is a concrete start
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:00:31
financial/cost building block
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:00:40
Thanks for your repsonse, Janis!
Alex Deacon (IPC)
01:01:01
Perhaps an Audit building block is needed….
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:01:20
Agreed, Alex
Marika Konings
01:02:05
@Milton - block N is financial sustainability (but TBC for now)
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:02:12
+1 Alex
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:03:12
Thanks, Marika. TBC was what I meant, kind of a blank spot
Marika Konings
01:03:13
Audit is mentioned in building block d but please review and see if a separate building block should be included.
Marika Konings
01:03:29
@Milton - ah, yes :-)
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:03:32
Audit seems highly related to accreditation
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:04:33
@Milton not necessarily
Marika Konings
01:04:52
Please note that we will be using a new survey tool (clicktools) so it may look slightly different from previous surveys we’ve done.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:04:58
I guess we need to be more explicit with the audit exercise. Auditing the accreditation criteria is one thing, auditing actual requests and auditing the processing of requests is a different thing, so we have at least 3 areas for auditing
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:05:05
Auditing is the means of enforcing compliance with the accreditation agreement
Ayden Férdeline
01:06:41
sorry to join late
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:07:24
@Milton auditing the whole process whatever it is, is what I was thinking of. This could be devided into smaller parts
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:08:43
what are the three again?
Brian King (IPC)
01:08:53
+1 Milton
Matt Serlin (RrSG)
01:09:12
Can we maybe circulate those in writing to the list or here?
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:09:43
Before any decision on implementation takes place, there should be an estimate of the cost and effort to establish and maintain such system, so that proportionality can be assessed.
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:11:39
I am happy with all three action items
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:12:12
1. zero draft google doc, make comments, develop draft 0.1 for LA2. ranking topics or adding topics3. list of issues that need to be further explored
Matt Serlin (RrSG)
01:12:19
The three seem fine to me but I might suggest Thursday the 5th for initial feedback may be too aggressive…Monday is a holiday in many places
Alex Deacon (IPC)
01:15:14
+1 Matt
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:16:04
Hi Gina, the second one is a legal one, drafting and execution of the agreements that need to be put in place between all parties.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:16:40
So, Contingency, Agreements and Evaluation
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:20:54
Ok fine
Alan Greenberg (ALAC)
01:23:23
Need to leave now. Thanks all.
Leon Sanchez (ICANN Board Liaison)
01:24:02
That is our expectation Janis
Marika Konings
01:25:27
Current list of questions to CEO/Strawberry team can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q_0smZv58-rQ4RF9buAMBmt4PGVSk6gAYyLiPIOlyQU/edit
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:25:45
Bye Alan
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:30:15
One week is not long for two birds to answer those questions, particularly if they need further briefing. it is important that we understand their assumptions.
Steve DelBianco (BC)
01:30:47
I understand there were 2 RySG folks on the legal committee, Alan.
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:30:51
I would like to support Alan Was reservations
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:30:53
confirm
Alan Woods (RySG)
01:31:02
i broke the inyternet! sorry :)
Alan Woods (RySG)
01:31:08
*internet
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:31:14
That was Alan W apostrophe s
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:31:38
That's ok Alan
Milton Mueller (NCSG)
01:32:11
the inyeternet is the Russian internet, Alan
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:32:19
Will Ruth be in Los AngelesÉ
Matt Serlin (RrSG)
01:32:36
We had asked previously and told no…
Matt Serlin (RrSG)
01:32:41
To Ruth...
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:32:50
(apologies, on french keyboard. that was a question mark)
Stephanie Perrin (NCSG)
01:33:02
We need Ruth. Just saying
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:33:16
Thank you all bye for now
Alex Deacon (IPC)
01:33:17
good night!
Ayden Férdeline (NCSG)
01:33:18
Thanks all.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:33:20
Thanks, Janis and all!
Marc Anderson (RySG)
01:33:21
thanks all
Leon Sanchez (ICANN Board Liaison)
01:33:23
thanks everyone