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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team
Ariel Liang
27:20
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-f9Ml-z9LcxVs9WuX53kIkp29j0JLh6d/edit#
Jeff Neuman
27:52
Wouldn't a better way to define an alternate as a Participant that is available to become a Member at any point in time where the Member is unavailable.....
Jeff Neuman
30:37
Right, the Alternate is a Participant appointed by an SO/AC. If the Member is unavailable, they become a Member
Maxim Alzoba
30:49
so they pop in and out …
Maxim Alzoba
31:03
what happens when they need to step down?
Jeff Neuman
32:34
That's why I would call them a Participant appointed by the SA/AC
Jeff Neuman
32:40
SO/AC
Ariel Liang
33:32
Members are required to sign the Statement of Participation, which requires consistent participation
Jeff Neuman
33:51
Another way to say it would be that an SO/AC may designate one or more Participants to serve as an Alternate for the Member if the Member is not available.
Maxim Alzoba
34:00
Members might have vacations and illness leave
Maxim Alzoba
34:30
old
Ariel Liang
37:10
Participants are not encouraged to have continuous participation in the meetings though…alternates have that expectation, to enhance accountability
Jeff Neuman
37:43
Ariel - I do not see why we wouldn't encourage Participants to have continuous participation
Ariel Liang
37:47
New members can join if there is no one to fill his/her shoes. It is in the following section
Jeff Neuman
37:50
We should be
Maxim Alzoba
38:05
old, sorry
Jeff Neuman
38:12
I just think we are making this way more complicanted
Jeff Neuman
38:14
than it is
Steve Chan
38:29
@Jeff, there is difference between being encouraged and there being an expectation to continuously participate, because you have a responsibility
Maxim Alzoba
38:42
hereby I officially dislike the reactions icon in Zoom (hand in the old interface was way better)
Jeff Neuman
38:52
@Steve - Really? Come on, that is just a bureaucratic designation
Jeff Neuman
39:01
Every Participant should be there continuously
Steve Chan
39:30
Yes, there is a difference. For the ~200 membership in SubPro, how many actively participated?
Maxim Alzoba
40:07
members should be when possible (travels are less common, but vacations and other things still happen)
Maxim Alzoba
40:12
available
Ariel Liang
40:26
Participants are not required to sign the statement of participation, which has all the requirements for commitment that the WG leadership/council leadership can enforce
Ariel Liang
40:39
Members are required to sign that
Maxim Alzoba
40:46
SO/ACs have to send someone
Ariel Liang
41:08
That’s a membership responsibility as per PDP 3.0
Maxim Alzoba
41:11
new hand
Steve Chan
41:15
Of participation, not interest.
Ariel Liang
41:31
It is Statement of Participation, not EOI
Jeff Neuman
41:38
@Steve - Way too complicated and makes no sense to anyone other than an insider
Ariel Liang
41:39
Sorry Statement of Interest
Ariel Liang
43:03
Hand up
Jeff Neuman
43:44
This is essentially an open group we are creating
Jeff Neuman
44:02
Except when it comes time to take a consensus call
Jeff Neuman
44:14
then it is measured in terms of Members
Jeff Neuman
45:16
I disagree
Jeff Neuman
47:13
This Statement of Participation is not tailored to for a Hybrid groupppp
Jeff Neuman
47:17
group
Maxim Alzoba
47:45
this looks like representation group
Maxim Alzoba
47:47
only
Jeff Neuman
49:35
Yeah, we are letting bureaucracy dictate results
Steve Chan
58:09
So there are alternates…lol
Ariel Liang
58:26
Sounds like we are back to where we started
Maxim Alzoba
58:55
do we need a chieftain for all others (who do not represent SOs/ACs)?
Nathalie Peregrine - ICANN Org
59:32
Welcome Tomslin!
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
01:00:26
Thank you Nathalie. Apologies for being late
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
01:05:26
In the event that a group has no alternate, does that mean they can't have someone represent in the place of a member who is absent?
Ariel Liang
01:08:15
What Maxim said is included in the draft charter
Ariel Liang
01:08:42
It is th “Joining of New Members” section
Maxim Alzoba
01:08:44
thanks
Maxim Alzoba
01:09:20
let it be 2+1
Jeff Neuman
01:09:36
Just 2 Members...
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:01
old
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:50
writing skills?
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:07
ok
Ariel Liang
01:18:12
Highly effective oral, written, and interpersonal communication skills (in simple, comprehensible English);
Maxim Alzoba
01:19:12
Thanks all, have to drop