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051040011 GNSO Council - Shared screen with speaker view
Terri Agnew
48:18
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
49:02
Back - hopefully my laptop will behave
Carlton Samuels
01:01:11
Good morning all. My apologies for the late join. Access issues.
Nathalie Peregrine
01:01:45
Welcome Carlton.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:05:11
I could even chat to you if I choose
Tatiana Tropina
01:08:05
Scott is here :)
Rafik Dammak
01:11:05
thanks everyone
Julf Helsingius
01:11:23
Hi, Jeff! Have you happened to look at the SSC minutes?
James Gannon
01:11:30
Congrats rafik
Marie Pattullo
01:12:57
The BC has a statement for the record (to be read in later, of course). Thanks.
Julf Helsingius
01:13:05
WAs
Greg DiBiase
01:13:41
I have a statement on behalf of the RrSG
Flip Petillion
01:13:54
Keith, I’ll do on behalf of the IPC. Thanks.
Philippe Fouquart
01:14:03
The ISPCP would like to make a statement too.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:14:55
I also have my hand up on this item after COuncillor statements of course
Maxim Alzoba
01:15:36
The RySG has a statement for the record (to be read in later, of course). Thanks. It will be made by Sebastien Ducos.
Marie Pattullo
01:16:27
And the BC!
Rafik Dammak
01:16:33
I would like to make statement at the end
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
01:18:12
The RrSG will also be emailing our statement to the list as well
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:19:14
Here's the order of statements: IPC, RySG, ISPCP, BC, RrSG, Cheryl, Rafik
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:19:44
And I encourage all to submit the statements to the GNSO Council list for the record and archives.
Maxim Alzoba
01:24:19
a formal question - how many tens of minutes each orator has?
Maxim Alzoba
01:28:00
I have serious concerns that we do not have enough time for other Councillors
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:28:05
@Maxim: We have not specified a time per speaker, but we'll need everyone to be concise while making their points and then submitting a full statement to the list.
James Gannon
01:30:31
I think we need to have a freame of time at least to have fairness
Nathalie Peregrine
01:32:39
All statements sent to the Council mailing list will be included in full in the GNSO Council meeting minutes.
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
01:32:49
With all due respect after the amount of time allotted to the IPC ALL other statements should be read in full
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
01:32:55
To do otherwise would be unfair
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:33:48
I'm not intending to cut anyone off, but everyone should try to be concise. We added 30 minutes to the meeting in anticipation of these important statements.
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
01:48:01
Our statement has been sent to the list
Flip Petillion
01:51:35
As asked by Keith, we sent the IPC statement to Nathalie.
Nathalie Peregrine
01:52:17
Well received Flip, thank you!
Marie Pattullo
01:53:33
Ours has gone to the list too.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:53:37
I am confident procedural points of concern to our ALAC reps were raised in the EPDP
Nathalie Peregrine
01:56:27
Marie & Michele, well received, thank you
Tatiana Tropina
02:00:51
So the review of public comments has already been complete? (16 days ago, right?)
Julie Hedlund
02:01:38
@Tatiana: Yes, the review of public comments is complete and now the WG is developing the final recommendations.
Tatiana Tropina
02:01:48
Thanks
Philip Corwin
02:02:06
We have completed our review of public comments, are in the midst of reviewing the draft final report, and will very soon be at consensus call
James Gannon
02:15:31
Appreciate that Phil
Philip Corwin
02:17:02
Trust me, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think this WG would go on for more than 4 years when I signed on as a co-chair, and lessons should be learned so it never happens again.
John McElwaine
02:17:26
Thank you to Phil and Brian for your commitment.
Steve Chan
02:21:34
Here is the link to the agenda, which has links to a relevant documents, including for this item 6: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Final+Proposed+Agenda+24+September+2020
Marie Pattullo
02:26:12
ARS doesn't need to be included - ICANN Org can just do that with no policy work needed.
Pam Little
02:28:35
Transfer Policy
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
02:28:36
Transfer policy
Maxim Alzoba
02:28:47
do we need ARS at all ?
Maxim Alzoba
02:32:05
there is no momentum to suport
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:32:14
I am confident the AC'sappreciate this as well @Marie
Maxim Alzoba
02:32:22
momentum = velocity (zero) multiplied by mass = zero
Marie Pattullo
02:33:34
Disagree Maxim - we do need ARS, and yes there is "momentum to support".
Marie Pattullo
02:33:41
Noted & thanks Cheryl.
Maxim Alzoba
02:35:12
Marie, deadlock is zero speed , so momentum is zero
Maxim Alzoba
02:35:27
there is no movement to support
Maxim Alzoba
02:35:51
and spending as much time as possible in the same state will lead to the same results
James Gannon
02:36:17
I have a hard stop at the top of the hour but as we have no votes remaining this should not be an issue, for the record I support Phillipe as the incoming Chair and I think he will be a great addition to Council leadership
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
02:36:42
Thanks James
Terri Agnew
02:37:14
Councilors: Please remember to set your chat to All Panelists and Attendees for all to be able read the exchanges.
James Gannon
02:37:58
Thanks Terri apologies, for the record the message that Keith was responding toI have a hard stop at the top of the hour but as we have no votes remaining this should not be an issue, for the record I support Phillipe as the incoming Chair and I think he will be a great addition to Council leadership
Maxim Alzoba
02:38:18
Marie, deadlock is zero speed , so momentum is zero
there is no movement to support
and spending as much time as possible in the same state will lead to the same results
Philippe Fouquart
02:39:14
Thanks James.
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
02:46:06
Ah so confusing
John McElwaine
02:47:44
@Michele it is my understanding that a Bird & Bird opinion concluded a legal basis exists
Michele Neylon (Blacknight)
02:48:00
So leave the wording in and be done with it
Marie Pattullo
02:48:54
Thanks, Sebastien.
Marie Pattullo
02:50:32
Happy to come back to that small team, Pam, thanks.
Sebastien Ducos
02:51:16
2nd point was: The board did not say that “we” shouldn’t touch the Thick Whois Transition Policy, the Board for the IRT not to touch it without Council… The Council (we) can touch existing policy if need be.
Marie Pattullo
02:51:17
More than happy, Pam!
Philippe Fouquart
02:51:23
Count me in Pam
Flip Petillion
02:51:28
And me
John McElwaine
02:51:32
@Pam - yes and in compliance with the IRT Guidelines
Nathalie Peregrine
02:53:33
Candidate statement: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/fouquart-statement-20sep20-en.pdf
Pam Little
02:54:08
Thank you all for volunteering for the Rec 7 small drafting team.
Sebastien Ducos
03:01:21
Thank you
Philippe Fouquart
03:01:51
:) I hope you would have
Maxim Alzoba
03:06:26
@Nathalie, please add me to the Rec 7 drafting small team
Rafik Dammak
03:06:43
thanks Philippe, bonne chance :)
Flip Petillion
03:07:04
Merci beaucoup Philippe !
Philippe Fouquart
03:07:08
thans Rafik, merci !!
Philippe Fouquart
03:07:59
And thanks Keith. much appreciated. Again if a follow-up is needed, another Q&A, I'll obviosuly reach out to a number of you, but please do the same.
Philippe Fouquart
03:09:16
(and thanks Fil)
Carlton Samuels
03:12:23
IMHO, a roll call vote in this context seems appropriate. Afterall, policy decisions on Council are made on a roll call vote! I'm feeling a leadership decision could only measure up to those and no more.
Pam Little
03:13:05
+ 1 Carlton re a roll call vote
Maxim Alzoba
03:13:15
thanks all
Terri Agnew
03:13:15
ICANN69 website: https://meetings.icann.org/en/remote69
Mary Wong
03:13:19
Reminder that ICANN69 Prep Week begins on 5 October - and you’ll need to register for the meeting to register for these webinars.
Marie Pattullo
03:13:38
+1 too. Makes (logical & logistical) sense!
Nathalie Peregrine
03:15:25
SPS survey: http://input.icann.org/go?iv=20x1mb7u8rt7l Please use Chrome/ File/ New Incognito window
Pam Little
03:15:25
Thanks Marie
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
03:15:35
Bye for now then...
Rafik Dammak
03:15:44
thanks everyone!
Pam Little
03:15:44
Thank you all