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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team
Maxim Alzoba
34:18
hello all
Dennis Tan
34:25
Hello Maxim
Andrea Glandon
35:09
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Jeffrey Neuman
40:16
From my e-mail: 1. Second Bullet I would phrase a little differently: “The charter should include questions pertaining to whether the SubPro recommendations for future TLDs should be extended to existing gTLDs.
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
41:13
Seems ok
Jeffrey Neuman
41:30
Third Bullet should eliminate the highlighted language
Ariel Liang
42:22
Hand up
Jeffrey Neuman
42:45
my hand is up for the rationale on this after Ariel
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
44:48
That's helpful Ariel
Jeffrey Neuman
46:45
Of course, once the policy has been implemented, another PDP can reiew
Jeffrey Neuman
46:48
review
Jeffrey Neuman
47:19
I disagree
Jeffrey Neuman
47:30
The SubPro report explains why it is inconsistent
Jeffrey Neuman
51:32
The Board never asked this group to review the SubPro recommendations....that would be different
Jeffrey Neuman
55:26
I am a little bit worried about others that may believe that the recommendations are inconsistent
Jeffrey Neuman
55:37
and therefore I would not want the word inconsistent to be in the principles
Ariel Liang
55:55
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-f9Ml-z9LcxVs9WuX53kIkp29j0JLh6d/edit
Ariel Liang
56:00
We stopped at a7
Maxim Alzoba
56:11
I beg pardon, have to drop the call will follow the transcript
Jeffrey Neuman
56:17
I thought we finished A7
Ariel Liang
01:02:34
Hand up
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:04:29
so that would not be done as part of the Sub Pro IRT?
Ariel Liang
01:05:08
Hand up
Ariel Liang
01:07:33
Makes sense Jeff
Jeffrey Neuman
01:08:48
The charter questions should be short and if we wanted, we could provide the context in a separate document for the group when they get started (a Mini issues report even though ePDPs have no issues report)
Ariel Liang
01:09:07
Or we can put more details in the footnote?
Jeffrey Neuman
01:10:04
What would an applicant need to provide in order to file successful challenge to an evaluator's decision based on the LGR? (Or something like that)
Jeffrey Neuman
01:10:13
yes
Jeffrey Neuman
01:12:21
agree with Donna
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:19:33
by ceiling value do you mean a number of labels that can be allocatable?
Jeffrey Neuman
01:19:35
I guess I am not sure why they recommend "as small as possible". I understand the recommendation for a limit. But not sure ho to interpret "as small as possible."
Jeffrey Neuman
01:20:17
@edmon - yes, I agree with you
Jeffrey Neuman
01:20:34
There ca be an infinite number of allocatable ones, but a lmiimted to the ones allocated
Jeffrey Neuman
01:20:51
"But a limit to the ones allocated"
Steve Chan
01:21:08
I think Dennis had mentioned a difference between Valid labels versus Allocatable. Sarmad can confirm that terminology.
Jeffrey Neuman
01:21:42
But there still can be a ton of "valid" labels. But we may want to limit how many "valid" ones are allocated
Steve Chan
01:22:02
I think we’re saying the same thing Jeff :)
Edmon Chung
01:24:09
the future EPDP can inquire SSAC i suppose... but this seems to be a discussion for the EPDP WG not here?
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:24:29
if we come up with a number, is this something we should be consistent with the ccNSO effort
Jeffrey Neuman
01:24:42
Or at least have a good rationale as to why they want the variants. But if the standard is "as small as possible", that is meaningless
Edmon Chung
01:24:45
maybe :-D we could make that wish :-P
Ariel Liang
01:24:58
That’s correct Donna
Ariel Liang
01:25:13
It is a point for both cc and gnso to consider
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:25:43
should we be flagging questions where there is dependency with ccNSO work?
Jeffrey Neuman
01:25:55
No, not relevant for the charter
Edmon Chung
01:26:45
we can have a blanket statement to coordinate with ccnso work if we do not already have it, no need to do that point by point i think
Edmon Chung
01:28:08
congrats and thx :-)
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:28:34
which is great Dennis, but the timing is going to be an issue if both efforts aren't moving forward at a similar pace
Ariel Liang
01:28:43
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mD0soQAd-OfPQCiY5aHls3HVltq0CtSu8aAlZ5zQlAk/edit#gid=0
Jeffrey Neuman
01:29:44
I think we can move a lot faster now. Once the principles are implemented in the other sections.
Jeffrey Neuman
01:30:50
Lets do it
Jeffrey Neuman
01:30:54
I think we need to move
Jeffrey Neuman
01:31:07
It would also help to get the edits by the end of the week
Jeffrey Neuman
01:31:13
as opposed to today :)
Jeffrey Neuman
01:31:48
I have to drop now, but in the future I can stay later hopefully
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:31:50
I could also start 30 minutes earlier
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:32:30
Thanks all
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:32:52
I have to drop
Dennis Tan
01:32:59
Thanks Donna
Edmon Chung
01:33:22
makes sense. no objection for pausing during icann
Ariel Liang
01:33:31
We can circle back on list
Ariel Liang
01:33:33
Thanks Edmon
Edmon Chung
01:33:48
thx bye
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - ICANN org
01:33:49
Thanks all.