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ICANN RP's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
38:23
Hi all
julie.hedlund
41:18
Also don’t see Biran
julie.hedlund
41:20
Brian
julie.hedlund
43:17
We are reaching out to him
Maxim Alzoba
43:30
Hello all
Vassindou BAMBA
45:13
Bonjour à Tous
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
56:10
Jeff will lead through our slides for SubPro, and I will jump in if required,... My laptop and Internet is being a tad flaky right now. I am also in the phone bridge however...
Susan Payne
58:26
Keith - is there an opportunity for the community to see the detail of these 3.0 proposals that council is discussing
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
58:50
+1 Susan - and to comment on those proposals
Beckham
58:56
Thanks @Keith for that summary, I think that idea of a feedback loop nicely captures what I was alluding to.
Ariel Liang
59:07
More information on PDP 3.0 can be found on page 10 in the Pre ICANN66 Meeting Report: http://go.icann.org/pre66
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
59:51
If required I will jump in
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:03:59
Human nature still tries to prevail in other words ;-)
Ariel Liang
01:12:22
Reminder for all - Further details about the work in GNSO PDP working groups, as well as other policy efforts, can be found in the GNSO Policy Briefing ICANN66 edition: http://go.icann.org/gnsobriefing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:13:07
Yes there are some useful lessons learned from our experienced in SubPro @Keith
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:15:55
Our massive 'many moving part' aspect of our monolithic work load @Keith yes it is considered and our assumptions will allow OUR work to complete in a timely manner noting what @Jeff is clarifying now on work completed by other activities after we complet and lodge our final reporting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:17:12
Our pleasure @Keith
Beckham
01:18:11
Apologies but I have to leave the call.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:21:58
<Question> With respect to PDP 3.0, we note that the small group of Councilors have discussed and delivered recommendations on 8 of 14 recommendations and is scheduled to deliver more soon. Many of these have not gone out for public comment nor have they involved anyone other than Councilors. We also note that the Board and other leaders constantly refer to PDP 3.0 as a way to address issues of the multi-stakeholder model. Is there a plan to use the multi-stakeholder model, involve others and put the materials out for public comment? <End of Question>
Darcy Southwell
01:25:45
<Question> When are answers to legal questions expected to be received by the EPDP? <End of Question>
Ariel Liang
01:26:53
@Jeff - there won’t be a public comment associated with PDP 3.0 implementation, but GNSO Stakeholder Groups (SGs) and Constituencies (Cs) are welcome to provide their feedback for the proposed implementation to the GNSO Council via their Council representatives. The wider ICANN community are also welcome to provide input to some specific improvements (ones especially related to GNSO WG participation). More details can be found in the Council response to the MSM public comment: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-multistakeholder-model-next-steps-27aug19/attachments/20191014/90dd0d9d/NextStepstoImprovetheEffectivenessofICANNsMultistakeholderModel-GNSOCouncilComments-0001.pdf
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:27:12
dropping from this zoom room will reappear via mobile app to join another call in a new Zoom room towards top of the hour, Apols I will keep the phine bridge open here though
Michele Neylon
01:28:08
mute your line if you aren’t talking
Brian King
01:28:26
@Darcy, we have received answers to all questions we've asked https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/EPDP+-P2+Legal+subteam
Brian King
01:28:58
We're considering asking a couple more, and have not yet finalized further questions.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:29:25
Thanks @Arial for the response, but that is not sufficient multi-stakeholder involvement.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:29:59
When we re-did the PDP for PDP 2.0, we had the entire community involved and came out with much better results
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:30:41
Having a small team of Councilors without involving past chairs, past working group members, and those that live the PDP every day is not the way we should be working
caitlin.tubergen
01:32:22
As Keith noted previously, when submitting a question,please provide your name and affiliation if you are representing one, start yoursentence with <QUESTION> and end it with <QUESTION>.Text outside these quotes will be considered as partof “chat”.
Ariel Liang
01:34:41
Improvements related to PDP WG chairs & liaisons responsibilities/roles, for example, have the involvement/input from current/past liaisons/WG leaders. You are welcome to read the Council response to the MSM public comment for detail (implementation documents for improvements): https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-multistakeholder-model-next-steps-27aug19/attachments/20191014/90dd0d9d/NextStepstoImprovetheEffectivenessofICANNsMultistakeholderModel-GNSOCouncilComments-0001.pdf
Susan Payne
01:34:57
Hear hear re newcomers joining at the end.
Maxim Alzoba
01:35:12
with extremely old PDPs we have a risk of people gradually leaving it due to real life :)
Darcy Southwell
01:35:26
Agree with James Bladel on the need to reach the finish line on these PDPs.
Michele Neylon
01:35:48
Maxim - natural attrition
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:35:58
@Arial - I can state affirmatively that I have not been contacted for my input as a current Chair, past liaison, past WG leader, etc.
James Bladel
01:35:59
Point taken, Keith. But I note that we were “on track” in mid 2017 as well.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:36:15
And I have volunteered my services for well over a year
James Bladel
01:36:20
Yes, thanks for that Jeff.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:37:30
new hand
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:41:04
@Keith - That is not the message that is getting out to the community (See Board's messages, see MSM work from Brian Cute), etc. Also, take recommendations on WG Chairs. How can there be recommendations on their activitiy without talking to them
Maxim Alzoba
01:41:42
Jeff , we can not even get the costs of MSM out of ICANN.org
Mary Wong
01:43:36
@Maxim, we have not forgotten about following up on the Council’s question about MSM costs. I apologize that it is taking a long time.
Michele Neylon
01:44:45
there was an answer provided by Teresa I think
Mary Wong
01:45:59
@Michele, yes; and based on a few Councilors’ responses to that reply, I believe staff have an action item to follow up on.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:46:09
Jeff is NOT alone in his concerns BTW
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:46:35
@Michele - yes I speak at public meetings, but that is AFTER recommendations are delivered.
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:47:54
I should have a right to address the attack on me
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:50:07
Jeff, I'll come back to you after we wrap up the RPM Q&A.
Susan Payne
01:51:23
@Phil, I agree that the data on the UDRP is better but we still don't have uniform data from the different providers. We have no data on how many individual names have been the subject of UDRPs, for example, because not all of the providers give that data point
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
01:51:28
thanks
Marie Pattullo
01:52:43
I report back to the BC on 3.0 and of course would take their comments back; Jeff, all SG/Cs can dop the same & your (everyone's!) input is of course really helpful. As Rafik said, we're in this to take the practical learnings we've all seen/experienced & move forward.
Marie Pattullo
01:53:11
*do
Michele Neylon
01:58:22
Jeff - I’m not in the “small group"
James Bladel
01:59:00
@Jeff - and Avri and I were chopped liver? :)
avri doria
02:00:01
@james i often think of myself as chopped liver.
Marie Pattullo
02:01:06
Ewww, liver. Ewwwww. (Nothing personal).
Michele Neylon
02:01:25
I haven’t eaten liver in years
James Bladel
02:01:44
Have you tried it chopped? It’s still awful.
Michele Neylon
02:01:57
depends how you cook it
Philip Corwin
02:02:09
A shout out to ICANN support staff. without their tireless efforts none of these PDPs could function.
Michele Neylon
02:02:13
@james - you really don’t eat meat
Jeff Neuman (Com Laude)
02:02:13
Liver with bacon wrapped around it is good. Because bacon makes everything better (unless you are a vegetarian)
Michele Neylon
02:02:30
Jeff - haven’t tried that
Michele Neylon
02:02:37
though American bacon is too thin for my taste
Michele Neylon
02:02:44
bye all
Abdalmonem Galila ( NTRA )
02:02:46
Thanks, Bye
James Bladel
02:02:46
Thanks all
Maxim Alzoba
02:02:50
bye all
Marie Pattullo
02:02:51
Bye!
julf Helsingius
02:02:51
Thanks all