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tatianatropina
35:33
Leon, *always*
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
36:29
I'm happy to assist with that
Brian King
36:43
I can volunteer to help summarize the legal memos. Would prefer not to lead the charge if someone wants to lead.
margiemilam
36:48
Yes I volunteer
Brian King
37:00
I volunteer as tribute
tatianatropina
37:07
Leon, as I am not a full member, can I ask someone from NCSG like Steph who alternated me in the committee if she wants to??
tatianatropina
37:22
thanks a lot
Hadia
37:46
hello all
Margie Milam (BC)
38:45
No it was not
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
38:53
No it was not
caitlin.tubergen
41:55
For the action item re: summaries of legal memos, I will set the due date as Monday, 14 October so the Team can discuss during its next call, unless the volunteers object to that timing.
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
42:23
Sounds fair to me
Brian King (IPC)
43:22
Sure
caitlin.tubergen
43:44
Thanks Matt and Brian! :)
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
46:51
thanks Margie - Let's discuss this online
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
53:43
Where processing is carried out in accordance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject or where processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority, the processing should have a basis in Union or Member State law.
Brian King (IPC)
55:15
Yes, we can do that
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
55:17
That's a good idea Leon
caitlin.tubergen
58:26
Done - thank you, Leon.
Margie Milam (BC)
01:08:02
yes
xx Greg Aaron (SSAC)
01:09:38
WHERE was legal vs natural "solved" ? Please ask Leon.
Margie Milam (BC)
01:10:22
It's still part of Phase 2
Marika Konings
01:11:39
As a reminder, a legal memo on legal vs. natural was provided during phase 1: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138857/Natural%20vs.%20Legal%20Memo.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1548874825000&api=v2
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:11:53
Thank Marika
xx Greg Aaron (SSAC)
01:12:35
Leon, I'm an alternate here, but I'd like your permission to speak.
Brian King (IPC)
01:13:04
I note that in Phase 2 we are focused on SSAD. The concept of legal/natural distinction is different in the context of SSAD than when were discussing "unfettered" publication in Phase 1.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:13:05
I shall also talk about natural vs legal
Marika Konings
01:13:51
Note that one of the dependencies for further consideration in phase 2 is the study that is to be carried out by ICANN Org on this topic.
Marika Konings
01:14:41
Is it worth to come back to legal questions on this topic once the study results are available as that may further help inform the EPDP Team’s consideration of this topic?
xx Greg Aaron (SSAC)
01:15:29
And this SSAC question is all about the practical implementation.
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:15:45
I am “happy” to have this discussion again. Let it just be noted that by asking this question, any delay caused by asking this question again is on those insisting on the debate, not those relying on previous policy discussions
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:17:40
It is relevant for the balancing test, but the question asked goes way beyond this
Marika Konings
01:21:19
The study is part of the EPDP Phase 1 Implementation
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:23:36
I therefore move for this to be tabled until the study is completed
Margie Milam (BC)
01:24:13
The study was meant to inform Phase 2
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:24:15
In that case it needs to be outsourced to a later policy process
Margie Milam (BC)
01:24:27
no - its part of Phase 2
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:24:49
if you are willing to delay the results of phase 2 until the study is done...
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:25:16
I would prefer to move ahead without it and progress
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:27:25
sure, but we should not ask questions to our counsel that duplicate the study
Tatiana Tropina (NCSG)
01:28:36
I agree with Volker
Brian King (IPC)
01:31:02
I need to drop right at the top of the hour. I've read through this question and I support it.
Volker Greimann (RrSG)
01:32:02
Can we leave out vocabulary like “landmark”
Margie Milam (BC)
01:33:48
yes - landmark can be deleted
Brian King (IPC)
01:34:51
I need to drop now. Thanks all
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:35:00
Thanks
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:35:03
Brian!
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:35:12
hit enter too soon :P
Tatiana Tropina (NCSG)
01:38:56
please add Stephanie Perrin to that small team. Thank you :-)
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:39:21
Which team Tatiana? Just to be clear and not forget it
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:39:23
please
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:39:48
the answer to the last part of the question could guide many of our decisions in relation to our model
Tatiana Tropina (NCSG)
01:40:12
for summaries yes
caitlin.tubergen
01:40:22
Got it - thanks, Tatiana!
Tatiana Tropina (NCSG)
01:40:26
thanks!
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
01:41:15
Perfect, thanks!
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:42:08
Please Leon may you please add me to the small team of phase 2 legal memos
León Sanchez (Chair)
01:42:20
Sure Hadia!
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:42:25
thanks
caitlin.tubergen
01:43:14
Sure thing - Hadia is now added.
Matthew Crossman (RySG)
01:43:30
Thanks all!
Tatiana Tropina (NCSG)
01:43:36
thanks — bye all
xx Greg Aaron (SSAC)
01:43:46
Thanks, all. Thanks, Leon. Thanks, Caitlin and Marika.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:44:08
thanks all bye