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Julie Bisland's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Stephen Deerhake
37:46
Welcome everyone to Zoom land...
Jonathan Robinson
40:11
I find it helpful to click on particpants and chat windows (botton of screen) and then set the window up on the rhs of the screen to mimick Adobe
Julf
41:37
I seem to only be able to either see participants or chat, but not both - selecting one hides the other
Robert Guerra (SSAC)
42:27
need to step out for 2-4 min. will let you know when back
Julf
42:29
Ah! :)
Joke Braeken
42:38
A small reminder to please mute your phones when not speaking
Julf
42:59
yep!
Raymond Mamattah
43:10
fine with us
Vanda Scartezini
43:15
ion problem to me, I use Zoom at my office
Vanda Scartezini
44:06
the main issue is not scroll the screen but in general is much better and sound quality is great
Robert Guerra (SSAC)
48:07
back
Raymond Mamattah
49:58
Am i the only one who cant see any slide presentation?
Andrea Glandon
50:18
@Raymond, currently the agenda is showing. Are you note able to see it?
Joke Braeken
50:40
here you will be able to read the discussions from Kobe, regarding Charter question #2: https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/Initial+Report+Public+Comment+Review?preview=/102138829/105389510/Charter%20Question%20%232%20Review%20Template%20-%20upd%2022%20March%202019.docx
Jonathan Robinson
50:42
Alan
Raymond Mamattah
50:53
@Andrea, I can see the agenda
Joke Braeken
52:30
I would like to confirm in written as well that the small group has until the end of this week for a final review of the additional language
Joke Braeken
52:57
after this deadline the proposed text can be shared with the CCWG
enoss
57:12
all sounds good to me
Jonathan Robinson
58:14
Current text - subject to any further discussionand input.from Maureen
Jonathan Robinson
58:21
Proposed guidance to evaluators:Evaluators may need to differentiate between what it is in the regular ICANN operational budget and what has been funded on a more exceptional basis, but this will be a determination that needs to be made by the evaluators in line with the legal and fiduciary requirements. Consistency with the ICANN mission is a necessary but not sufficient condition for funding. Evaluators should specifically consider the scope and impact of the proposed project in light of the constraints otherwise imposed.Proposed preamble to annex with examples:Consistency with the ICANN mission is a necessary but not sufficient condition for funding. Evaluators should specifically consider the scope and impact of the proposed project in light of the overall purpose of the auction proceeds and constraints otherwise imposed. Examples provided are specifically intended to be illustrative, not definitive.
Jonathan Robinson
58:53
Should read: Current text - subject to any further discussionand input from Maureen or others.
Vanda Scartezini
01:01:08
yes. thanks
Judith Hellerstein- at large member
01:02:20
hi Andrea. on the app it seems you cannot switch between the documents and so we just see the agenda
Filina Natalia
01:02:33
Hello everyone! Sorry for the delay.
Andrea Glandon
01:02:49
@Judith, understood
Vanda Scartezini
01:05:35
yes we have in general agreement
Andrea Glandon
01:06:09
If you would like to follow along with notes please see this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/120qaogiaThVbirfuIdjHSpBgSY3e1YAOIXXTbNsfsBc/edit
Vanda Scartezini
01:06:28
here we have a top 15% of overhead
Maarten Botterman
01:06:33
Makes sense to me
Vanda Scartezini
01:07:22
yeah, make it open
Carolina Caeiro
01:07:38
I think maybe we should clarify why we are not stating a specific percentage
Carolina Caeiro
01:07:55
it is understandable that the community would inquire
Vanda Scartezini
01:08:00
can be a good idea Carolina
Vanda Scartezini
01:11:42
perfect Xavier
Carolina Caeiro
01:12:20
I agree with Xavier
Carolina Caeiro
01:13:02
besides, I insist, in explaining why we have not stated a specific percentage
Andrea Glandon
01:14:47
Live note taking link https://docs.google.com/document/d/120qaogiaThVbirfuIdjHSpBgSY3e1YAOIXXTbNsfsBc/edit
Julf
01:17:09
I still only see the agenda
Andrea Glandon
01:18:45
To see Joke’s screen, hover your mouse over the top portion of the Zoom room. Click view options and select Joke’s name to see her screen
Judith Hellerstein- at large member
01:18:47
hi JUFF it seems that onthe app you can only see the agenda since you cannot switch to another person sharing. apparently you can do that in the desktop
Andrea Glandon
01:19:01
Live notes can be seen here https://docs.google.com/document/d/120qaogiaThVbirfuIdjHSpBgSY3e1YAOIXXTbNsfsBc/edit
Julf
01:20:35
Andrea: doesn't seem to work in the application
Andrea Glandon
01:20:43
Ah, yes. I understand
Stephen Deerhake
01:22:19
Erika, no problem... We are all busy people... ;-)
erikamann
01:22:49
Thank you but this week was particularly hard.
Vanda Scartezini
01:22:56
indeed… and we need to take care of our paid work too…
Judith Hellerstein- at large member
01:26:28
yes. I confirmed that in the desktop app you can switch shared screens but in the app only the one screen is shown. it is the first one, so we only see Andrea's screen showing the agenda
erikamann
01:26:42
Yes, Vanda, I agree, we still have a real job.
enoss
01:30:39
small drafting team?
Vanda Scartezini
01:31:00
may be Elliot
Vanda Scartezini
01:31:12
this week I can not
enoss
01:31:18
agree
Rudi Daniel
01:32:49
agree if we are suggesting a overarching good governance principles.
Nadira AL-ARAJ
01:34:00
yes for good governance whenever it could be applied
enoss
01:37:17
apologies. have to go! (people issue). I will look for the email thread for erika and I
Robert Guerra (SSAC)
01:41:31
thank for Javier for the comments. most helpful.
Nadira AL-ARAJ
01:43:20
the audit also goes with the different mechanisms
Xavier Calvez
01:43:29
I am happy to address the question as the group sees fit.
Vanda Scartezini
01:47:32
thanks Xavier very clear.
Maarten Botterman
01:48:53
No Sam today
Lauren Allison
01:49:00
Sam passed apologies for today
Vanda Scartezini
01:50:09
agree Erika,
Vanda Scartezini
01:51:09
we need to have legal comments of course but this can be as Xavier has said , if something comes out from SAM we will see
Rudi Daniel
01:51:16
so and AC may not meet the criteria for auctions funds(??)
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
01:51:16
Are we discussing Comment 2 from the BC
Joke Braeken
01:52:46
Charter Question #10: To what extent (and, if so, how) could ICANN, the Organization or a constituent part thereof, be the beneficiary of some of the auction funds?
Joke Braeken
01:53:00
Preliminary CCWG Recommendation #5: The CCWG has not yet come to agreement on whether ICANN Org or a constituent part thereof should be a beneficiary of some of the auction proceeds and as such would welcome input on this question during the public comment period so that an informed decision can be made.
Xavier Calvez
01:53:10
I agree with Erika it is best to postpone.
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
01:53:10
Yes would be interested in learning the legal boundaries first
Vanda Scartezini
01:53:25
yes Erika.
Xavier Calvez
01:54:35
Happy to help address Carolina’s question.
Julf
01:54:44
Can it be done off-line?
Carolina Caeiro
01:54:59
it can, yes
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
01:55:22
Or it can be done via email to all. so that others can see and can review it
Carolina Caeiro
01:55:40
I know it may be repetitive for some of the more experienced participants
Rudi Daniel
01:56:14
I agree Erika, we need a legal lead on this to proceed.
Maarten Botterman
01:58:02
Yep got that - happy.
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
02:00:28
I think this is a problem so if some so/acs are allowed to have funding but others are not will e problematical
Julf
02:01:18
Indeed. I think it would violate the original idea of the auction proceeds proceeds fund.
Julf
02:01:59
Funding standard so/ac activites are part of the "operational activities".
Vanda Scartezini
02:02:04
ok out with this item
Maarten Botterman
02:02:37
If this would happen, this would be a Decision that is subject to Empowered COmmunity consideration (like all Board decisions) so the Board would be careful in doing so
Stephen Deerhake
02:03:38
I do not see how the Empowered Community could override aBoard decision regarding this matter.
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
02:03:53
The question here is that some alses are separate entities apart from icann
Nadira AL-ARAJ
02:04:09
same answer as the previous comment
Vanda Scartezini
02:04:15
yes ALS are totally independent from ICANN
Vanda Scartezini
02:04:46
In my opinion this will be possible
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
02:05:28
Hand up
Vanda Scartezini
02:07:15
I believe leadership recommendation is not related to this item
Nadira AL-ARAJ
02:09:23
It was discussed earlier
Maarten Botterman
02:12:22
@Erika: correct
Nadira AL-ARAJ
02:13:36
+1 Members of SOs/ACs or Cs have to be treated differently than the SOs/ACs
judith Hellerstein 2-Member ALAC
02:14:30
That is why I wanted to clarify it since there seems to be some confusion
Vanda Scartezini
02:20:55
agree Judith
Carolina Caeiro
02:21:02
many thanks to all
Julf
02:21:11
Thanks!
Rudi Daniel
02:21:12
many thx. all
Robert Guerra (SSAC)
02:21:13
bye all
Vanda Scartezini
02:21:18
thanks you all for this meeting specially to Erika and staff for the great job