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Julie Bisland's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Maxim Alzoba
19:09
no
Michelle DeSmyter
21:31
Again, please go to “View Options” at top of screen and click on the drop down arrow and click on Ariel’s name to view the documents currently being shared.
David McAuley
23:56
I like this depository - thanks
Maxim Alzoba
24:02
+1
julie.hedlund
24:33
Ariel is getting us organized :-)
Ariel Liang
25:07
Thanks everyone! Hope it make our work easier!
David McAuley
25:10
Well done Ariel
Maxim Alzoba
26:37
there was a meeting with ccNSO chair
Maxim Alzoba
27:00
with exchange of ideas about a special IFR
stephanieperrin
30:22
sorry to join late folks
Heather Forrest
30:54
Hi Stephanie, welcome! We're on agenda item 3, just summarising the work done on Article 4.3 since last call to wind up that work
stephanieperrin
31:22
thanks Heather!
Heather Forrest
35:55
The Notice gives the rationale for Council's decision, correct?
David McAuley
38:17
but we don't need to hold it up just for me
David McAuley
39:03
ok, makes sense as a sanity check
David McAuley
40:33
Agree with Heather - would be nice if we could get that pod back
David McAuley
41:14
Julie - will we ever be able to see staff hands raised?
Ariel Liang
41:39
David - it doesn’t seem that request has been implemented yet, so we have to type “hand up” in the chat
Heather Forrest
41:50
@Julie - if that's a google doc, could you send us the link to the google doc?
David McAuley
42:05
OK - another drawback when chairing a meeting, but thanks Ariel
Ariel Liang
42:13
Indeed. Hopefully it will be resolved so we can raise hand like everyone else
Maxim Alzoba
42:20
I think URL with comment rights might be useful and safe the same time
Maxim Alzoba
42:33
comment only rights
Juan Manuel Rojas
43:58
I agree, just to add comments
David McAuley
44:20
section a is overture
Maxim Alzoba
44:32
few days ago
Maxim Alzoba
44:58
Monday, 29 April at 1200 UTC
David McAuley
45:17
I just tried scrolling as well - what a memory
julie.hedlund
46:22
Here is the link to the document you see on my shared screen: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_y4Qm2TdV2g2JthY4PvXRTEFn6Froz5Jw-fxemUjiz4/edit?usp=sharing
julie.hedlund
48:37
@Heather: That is the staff’s reading of how a Special IFR is initiated.
julie.hedlund
48:51
@Heather: That action is underway.
julie.hedlund
49:52
@Heather: That action item is ongoing, but we should be completing a draft shortly.
Maxim Alzoba
51:22
and that GNSO Supermajority was about GNSO Council voting
David McAuley
51:25
Thanks for kind comments
Maxim Alzoba
51:32
+1 Heather
David McAuley
52:13
staff should get free coffee - use coffee icon
David McAuley
54:26
i have to step away for a moment or two to speak to a colleague
David McAuley
55:06
now back
Maxim Alzoba
56:20
voting too?
julie.hedlund
56:23
@Heather: Yes, public comment and then GNSO Council formal approval.
Ariel Liang
57:32
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_y4Qm2TdV2g2JthY4PvXRTEFn6Froz5Jw-fxemUjiz4/edit?usp=sharing
Maxim Alzoba
58:44
as I understood from ccNSO call - special IFR does not need to be ultra fast
David McAuley
01:01:59
Ease of use as per Wolf-Ulrich and Heather is important
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:08
to discuss tea catering during the F2F meetings ?
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:02:23
The EPDP hasn't also be used for several years...
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:27
formally GIP might be applicable :)
julie.hedlund
01:03:24
If we create something “bespoke” and we find it needs to be changed once we use it (if we use it) we won’t be able to easily make changes without going through the public comment/Council approval process. If we do it as guidelines, we have the flexibility to change easily.
David McAuley
01:03:58
Thanks Julie, important points
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:35
I do not think we need to make GIP more precise (to prevent making it useless for unpredictable items)
Heather Forrest
01:06:56
I agree with you, Maxim, and think that Wolf-Ulrich makes a good point
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:09:08
If we change Annex 3: is there no public comment period needed?
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:09:41
so it's needed anyway
Heather Forrest
01:10:02
If we draft guidelines to say "in Annex 3, in case of Special IFR, note in particualr the following sections, and omit the following sections" then we don't need public comment?
David McAuley
01:10:57
Sounds good to me
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:12:25
That would be excellent
David McAuley
01:12:41
+1 @Heather, good idea
stephanieperrin
01:12:58
Good plan. I will confess that I need to think through examples to see when we need precision and when not...
Heather Forrest
01:13:14
I think it will be easier to comment on when seeing it in a tangible form
David McAuley
01:13:30
agreed - let's road test a document
Maxim Alzoba
01:14:36
could it be called something like ‘a special IFR annex something?'
julie.hedlund
01:16:12
Happy to work with you Heather :-)
Ariel Liang
01:16:15
Hand up
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:15
potentially we are going to change the design of the documents … it might be a good idea to check with the GNSO Chair
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:31
I mean the design of how documents interact
Heather Forrest
01:16:49
@Maxim -at this point what I'm suggesting would not change the design of any part of the Ops Procedures.
David McAuley
01:17:00
Thanks Ariel
Heather Forrest
01:17:00
All we are doing is developing guidance for Council on how to use this Annex of the Ops Procedures
julie.hedlund
01:17:07
@Maxim: We wouldn’t have to change the format of Annex 3 — but we do plan to get informal GNSO Council approval of the guidelines.
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:11
we are creating an amendment of Annex 3
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:16
*to
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:45
guidelines, non obligatory?
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:01
ok
Ariel Liang
01:18:41
I have it up
Ariel Liang
01:18:45
You can switch to my screen
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:51
15th may
David McAuley
01:20:02
Thanks Heather, staff and all
Tatiana Tropina
01:20:12
thanks Heather and all!
Maxim Alzoba
01:20:14
good night
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
01:20:14
thanks and bye
Ariel Liang
01:20:18
thanks everyone