00:23:25 Elsa Saade: hey everyone! 00:23:39 Julf Helsingius: Volume was fine 00:23:50 Tomslin: Hey Elsa 00:24:10 Rafik Dammak: Hi all 00:24:14 Elsa Saade: hey Tomsljn! 00:24:23 Vrikson Acosta: Hi to all 00:24:25 Mauricia Abdol: Hello everyone 00:24:38 Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome all! 00:25:15 Nertil Berdufi: hi everyone 00:29:28 Farzaneh Badii: It is a very important meeting. Especially for EPDP work. 00:30:27 Elsa Saade: farzi sent an elaborate email about this which i think is super important to adopt in the meeting 00:33:02 Farzaneh Badii: I don’t think the Board provided a strong and elaborate rationale for its decision 00:33:40 Farzaneh Badii: I am going to make a comment in a minute 00:37:01 Daniel K. Nanghaka: It would be a good idea to request for elaborations for rejection of the recommendations 00:37:27 Daniel K. Nanghaka: Can a statement be written querying the process? 00:44:29 Elsa Saade: thanks a lot Farzi 00:44:35 Elsa Saade: this makes total sense to me 00:45:04 Daniel K. Nanghaka: I think the issue is in the process 00:45:16 Elsa Saade: and interesting thing is that IPC and BC have gotten into substance during GNSO council discussions 00:45:22 Tatiana Tropina: maybe we can strategise this quickly on the policy list without going into the weeds here 00:46:11 Tatiana Tropina: well we can at least suggest :-) 00:46:53 Tatiana Tropina: got it 00:47:39 Tatiana Tropina: once we step on the “substance” toes we will open the door for IPC and BC. Agree about the rationale because there were questions already 00:47:52 Farzaneh Badii: I think we should discuss this on the mailing list. being specific about who objected is a procedural matter 00:48:12 Tatiana Tropina: we have a board member on this call :-) 00:48:58 Farzaneh Badii: It is very worrying that the board mentions global public interest - etc and does not follow the process for not accepting recommendations (all process related) 00:49:49 Tatiana Tropina: me, am not EPDP star. Am an alternate. The star is Farz. 00:49:49 Farzaneh Badii: What was the answer in Marrakech about the rationale? 00:50:23 Farzaneh Badii: we can discuss on policy committee mailing list 00:50:34 Tatiana Tropina: Farz, yes, I guess the list would be the best way 00:50:45 Elsa Saade: sounds good! 00:58:13 Thato Mfikwe: Not me Farzi 00:58:30 Maryam Bakoshi: I have muted Vernatius 00:58:44 VERNATIUS EZEAMA: ok 00:59:03 Amr Elsadr: Apologies for being late. 00:59:58 Julf Helsingius: Thanks, Maryam! 01:05:59 Elsa Saade: that’s exactly what i wanted to mention 01:06:03 Julf Helsingius: Very clear and helpful, Amr! 01:08:20 Elsa Saade: maybe suggest wording for the letter even 01:08:30 Elsa Saade: since we have our talking points 01:09:05 Julf Helsingius: Can people please mute their mics? 01:09:23 Tatiana Tropina: Julf apparently not :-) 01:09:59 Amr Elsadr: If we can’t get a letter drafted by tomorrow’s Council meeting, I hope our councilors have enough to intervene on the topic. There are others in the GNSO (mainly BC and IPC), who are keen to have this dealt with on the EPDP. 01:10:39 Tatiana Tropina: guys I might have to disappear for 10 min or so around 15, but will be back. I am sorry for this — I am at the event where I have to speak, so in 15-20 min I will have to be multi-tasking for some time 01:13:37 Elsa Saade: i think Avri is on the call, we could ask for more info from the board side if she’d be able to share :) 01:13:40 Amr Elsadr: Seems like only 3 of our 6 councilors are on today’s call. Unfortunate. 01:15:52 Tatiana Tropina: 2,7 Amr. I can count only as 0,7 today because of travelling 01:17:45 Amr Elsadr: @Tanya: Thanks for getting on the call, despite your travels. 3 out of 6 seems to be rather more consistent than should be the case on these calls. 01:22:35 Amr Elsadr: Brian Aitchison. 01:28:01 Farzaneh Badii: yes thank you Tanya 01:30:14 Julf Helsingius: Amr: facts have never gotten in the way of some of the people... 01:30:29 Amr Elsadr: @Julf: Exactly, which is why safeguards are necessary. 01:30:39 Tatiana Tropina: Amr +10000 01:30:49 Julf Helsingius: @Amr: absolutely 01:31:19 Tatiana Tropina: we have been sort of trying to communicate this with regard to various processes but seems that forum shopping never ends 01:32:17 Farzaneh Badii: I apologize. I have to get ready and go to work. 01:34:54 Amr Elsadr: Hahaha!! There will be a lot of disappointments, then!! 01:37:20 Daniel K. Nanghaka: ATRT 3 survey 01:37:53 Elsa Saade: i mean, it should be better than how we have it now, but it won’t be the salvation of pdps ;) 01:40:07 Raphaël Beauregard Lacroix: Hi all apologies for missing first part 01:41:27 Amr Elsadr: @Daniel: Your volume was very low. Any chance you can type your comment in to the chat? 01:41:28 Amr Elsadr: Thanks. 01:42:07 Daniel K. Nanghaka: Sorry about that @Amr. It was in relation to the ATRT3 Survey which is out 01:42:41 Amr Elsadr: Thanks. 01:48:14 Elsa Saade: thanks to all commenters and pen holders!! 01:48:55 Taiwo Peter Akinremi: Apology for joining late. 01:48:59 Daniel K. Nanghaka: Thanks to all 01:49:14 Elsa Saade: and thank u Rafik for coordinating 01:49:55 Amr Elsadr: Julf? 01:51:24 Julf Helsingius: key word is "may" 01:58:28 Elsa Saade: note on rpm, is that its charter is being revised to figure out the recommendation in regards to IGONGO pdp results 01:58:38 Elsa Saade: i think u covered it Rafik 01:59:25 Amr Elsadr: One of the things we’re dealing with on the EPDP is the UDRP, which I presume the RPMs PDP will need to take in to account at some point. Still not clear how the two groups will coordinate. 01:59:57 Elsa Saade: RPMs seems to become a dump for so many other pdps lol 02:01:10 Elsa Saade: thanks Rafik! 02:01:15 Sam Lanfranco: Bye and thanks to all. 02:01:39 Vaibhav Aggarwal, IN: Thanks rafik 02:01:44 Vaibhav Aggarwal, IN: You were great 02:01:49 Amr Elsadr: One final snarky comment, if I may; Our councilors need to make more of an effort to attend these calls. 02:02:44 Raphaël Beauregard Lacroix: Mid August... Vacation time in Europe and NA :p 02:02:53 Amr Elsadr: And Africa. 02:03:04 Elsa Saade: thanks all! 02:03:08 Mauricia Abdol: Thank you 02:03:09 Taiwo Peter Akinremi: Thanks all 02:03:11 Amr Elsadr: Thanks all. Bye. 02:03:11 avri doria: bye, thanks 02:03:12 Mauricia Abdol: bye 02:03:14 Julf Helsingius: Thanks all 02:03:15 Tomslin: thanks all 02:03:16 Raphaël Beauregard Lacroix: ;) 02:03:25 Issakha Doudbane KHOUZEIFI: Hi all, KHOUZEIFI Issakha from Chad 02:03:26 VERNATIUS EZEAMA: bye