00:20:32 Ayden Férdeline: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15MRe6L9AkkS1e0y5LBzcLRxMfQt5Shi0RH7jIBKq8To/edit 00:25:38 Ayden Férdeline: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15MRe6L9AkkS1e0y5LBzcLRxMfQt5Shi0RH7jIBKq8To/edit 00:27:41 Sam Lanfranco: Sorry I was a bit late. Other (of site) meeting ran long. 00:27:56 Sam Lanfranco: "off sote" 00:28:08 Sam Lanfranco: "off site" 00:35:39 stephanieperrin: that is truly horrible! 00:41:08 stephanieperrin: I agree Sam….the reason for this is that there are so few people doing the work we can never catch up 00:42:13 stephanieperrin: I am very happy to see the travel reports up again, even though I am now travelling business class on long flights for health reasons 00:43:28 stephanieperrin: Once again, I as your fearless leader have no control over what we spend on travel. We could add that as a role for the finance cite…oversight of travel spending 00:43:54 Sam Lanfranco: This is the first I have heard about outlandish visa costs and ($10,000) travel costs. We need, for starters, more transparency here, and more accountability. 00:44:23 stephanieperrin: absolutely. we need a collective conscience for what we are spending 00:45:13 stephanieperrin: Frankly, I am working enough hours that I feel like my spending is justified, but if others do not I am happy to argue my case. 00:45:17 Ayden Férdeline: https://draftable.com/compare/wKNTHxpxJlgJ 00:57:48 stephanieperrin: no transparency about the budget either..... 00:57:55 stephanieperrin: or how many will use it. 01:01:15 stephanieperrin: that is the current practice 01:01:39 stephanieperrin: now we could consolidate and put all Abrs under NCSG, but that might start a war 01:01:45 Sam Lanfranco: I see a typo on my part. On this I meant to type "NCUC and NPOC" - mea culpa 01:02:11 stephanieperrin: frankly, given my aforementioned concerns about the travel club, and the focus on metrics, I would prefer to consolidate. 01:04:22 Bruna Santos : I guess aligning the process for drafting is sure doable. But I would have to refer back to the EC about concentrating the process. 01:04:24 stephanieperrin: well I am prepared to go for it if others agree…. 01:04:32 stephanieperrin: 16 months to get it through.... 01:04:41 Bruna Santos : from the ones submitted last year, I believe NCUC was the only one who got something approved, no ? 01:04:51 Bruna Santos : I am not sure NPOC got anything approved 01:04:55 stephanieperrin: yes, we struck out 01:05:03 Bruna Santos : By last year I mean last FY 01:07:49 Bruna Santos : Yes, agree with Stephanie. We should asap build a list of expenses 01:08:46 Bruna Santos : I am not being able to follow up on these expenses either 01:10:32 Sam Lanfranco: I agree with Stephanie about a clear transparent record of expenses and uses, for transparency and because a sane person would not be willing to serve as NCSG Chair with things the way they are...Stephanie excepted, and I don't suggest a Libra account. 01:13:06 Bruna Santos : we did not pay for this lunch, Ayden. We covered the NCUC constituency lunch 01:13:35 Bruna Santos : In the end At-Large covered the lunch 01:14:25 stephanieperrin: i am going to ask Mary for a meeting on this. It is nuts. I worked on paper burden reduction in govt….this is the kind of ridiculous paper trail that we would not tolerate. 01:15:49 stephanieperrin: Certainly under procedures we could sequester say 5K of the PIR money for operational expenses…it would be simpler to do it all through a US bank account... 01:17:43 stephanieperrin: we also need to measure our results…once again, if we had a public record of what we are spending, perhaps a member would come forward and say, hey you guys are nuts to pay this much, let me help you find a cheaper mechanism.... 01:18:32 stephanieperrin: this has been a very productive meeting. Thanks. 01:19:58 stephanieperrin: I will make a table of expenses to post on the website. 01:20:36 Bruna Santos : thank you very much everyone 01:20:38 Bruna Santos : bye