00:47:23 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks Elsa other than the effects of the weather demons here in AU sure am 00:47:44 Maxim Alzoba: high winds here 24m/sec 00:48:08 Sebastien Ducos: I am here 00:48:10 Greg DiBiase (Amazon Registrar): Thanks! 00:48:11 Elsa Saade: snow here in NYC 00:48:37 Tatiana Tropina: rain the The Hague :-| 00:48:53 Tom Dale: Bushfires and smoke haze here 00:48:56 Keith Drazek (Verisign): Seagulls in Anacortes 00:49:00 Maxim Alzoba: snow melted - rains from time to time 00:49:16 Julf Helsingius: 12.5 C (54.5 F) in Amsterdam, freaky 00:49:48 Tatiana Tropina: Julf, here same. Warm and rain :-| 00:50:17 Scott McCormick: i joined a min late 00:50:25 Nathalie Peregrine: Welcome Scott! 00:50:44 maarten.simon: Not much different weather n Arnhem :) 00:51:10 Maxim Alzoba: @Nathalie, Could we have an updated agenda? (URL?) 00:52:17 Nathalie Peregrine: The agenda as standing prior to the call (without Keith’s latest edits) can be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Final+Proposed+Agenda+19+December+2019 00:52:32 Maxim Alzoba: thanks! 01:03:53 Marie Pattullo: Referring to mails sent today - we'd like a small amendment to the end of para 2, adding "in compliance with Section 3.7.7.1 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement". 01:04:02 Rafik Dammak: Sorry for my voice, caught my second cold of the season 01:04:57 Marie Pattullo: Yes please, Keith. 01:05:32 Marie Pattullo: With this, we would be happy to vote in favour. 01:06:09 Pam Little, RrSG: Could staff please display the proposed amendment on the screen? 01:06:35 Sebastien Ducos: I raised my hand to convey IRT views 01:06:37 John McElwaine: RRA Section 3.7.7.1 states “The Registered Name Holder shall provide to Registrar accurate and reliable contact details and correct and update them within seven (7) days of any change during the term of the Registered Name registration, including: the full name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number if available of the Registered Name Holder; name of authorized person for contact purposes in the case of an Registered Name Holder that is an organization, association, or corporation; and the data elements listed in Subsections 3.3.1.2, 3.3.1.7 and 3.3.1.8 01:06:55 John McElwaine: *RAA* 01:11:17 Marie Pattullo: We thought this might be less contentious than our prior suggestion - all Registrars MUST ensure that each registration contains valid Registered Name Holder contact information so that the actual registrant can be contacted. 01:12:01 Osvaldo Novoa: Hello all, sorry I’m so late. 01:12:12 Sebastien Ducos: :) 01:12:17 Nathalie Peregrine: Welcome Osvaldo! 01:18:10 Pam Little, RrSG: The language in this motion is almost identical to that in Rec.#29 regarding Admin Contact. 01:18:58 Marie Pattullo: My apologies, Flip; this was shared with you as soon as I could after speaking with the BC. 01:19:23 Carlton Samuels: Howdy all. I'm on now. My apologies. A standing Board meeting ran over 01:21:31 Marie Pattullo: Yes - and an identifier that goes to a legal, not a natural, person. 01:23:27 Pam Little, RrSG: This is about Org field 01:24:57 Marie Pattullo: Yes Pam, thus not a natural person (thus not in scope of the GDPR anyway). 01:25:35 Carlton Samuels: Registrars have a lot of transactional data that does not make the WHOIS, is all Michele is saying 01:25:41 Pam Little, RrSG: @Marie, a lot of registrations have PII in the Org field. 01:26:32 Marie Pattullo: If all we see is "DOMAIN ADMIN" -- how does one exercise rights, e.g. UDRP? 01:27:11 Marie Pattullo: Isn't the Org field mandatory if the RNH is an organisation? 01:27:36 Michele Neylon: there’s never been a clear obligation with respect to the org field 01:27:40 Michele Neylon: it’s always been optional 01:27:51 Michele Neylon: and it never had any clear legal or policy weight 01:28:04 Michele Neylon: *some* registries might have added layers to their own processes etc 01:28:07 Michele Neylon: but it’s not the norm 01:40:58 Flip Petillion: we are very popular again :-( 01:41:22 Rafik Dammak: @Flip it is holidays season ,you should cheer up :) 01:44:07 Maxim Alzoba: @Nathalie. is it possible to put the suggested charter of subgroup on the screen? 01:44:26 Elsa Saade: apologies all, I will have to drop the call. I will follow up on the mailing list. Salam! 01:45:04 Martin Silva Valent: Sorry all, gonna leave exactly in my favorite part of the meeting 01:50:33 Tatiana Tropina: aha, got it. 01:50:36 Tatiana Tropina: thanks 01:50:44 Tatiana Tropina: was just wondering if this is a bit confusing :-) 01:50:52 Tatiana Tropina: or can be interpreted differently 01:50:54 Tatiana Tropina: thank you 01:51:36 Keith Drazek (Verisign): Thanks Tatiana 01:54:45 Maxim Alzoba: it misses operationally - and mentioning for whom 01:55:30 Maxim Alzoba: new hand 01:55:48 Maxim Alzoba: lowered hand 01:56:35 Nathalie Peregrine: correct 02:06:41 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks for this update Rafik, as you know ALAC is watching this all rather closely... 02:08:40 Rafik Dammak: Hope no EPDP3 :) 02:09:19 Julf Helsingius: Rafik: thanks for a sleepless night! 02:09:52 Berry Cobb: Point 1) Yes, that is the real intent of the PCR. Recognize that the date will be missed before it is actually missed. 02:10:57 Maxim Alzoba: EDPD X? 02:12:02 Tom Dale: You can only expedite something so many times before it hits the speed of light. 02:12:46 Pam Little, RrSG: Thanks Rafik 02:13:15 Maxim Alzoba: @Tom do not forget about diminishing returns … so it could be a lot on the last range 02:16:04 Carlton Samuels: My audio is gone. 02:16:09 Carlton Samuels: On the bridge 02:16:30 Rafik Dammak: 30 min left before freedom :) 02:16:55 Nathalie Peregrine: @Carlton the operator is dialing you back 02:17:01 Rafik Dammak: @cheryl thanks , looking forward to share more updates soon 02:17:15 Carlton Samuels: Thank you Nathalie 02:17:40 Osvaldo Novoa: I am sorry but I won’t be able to participate in the SPS in Los Angeles. I will try to join some sessions remotely. 02:20:39 Tatiana Tropina: Am so sorry too. Missing it. And gutted to miss it :( 02:20:43 Maxim Alzoba: or to join PDP30 small group :) 02:20:44 Nathalie Peregrine: @osvaldo, very sorry to hear this, Constituency Travel and Terri will be reaching out to you via email to confirm this. 02:21:44 Rafik Dammak: @maxim missing a dot intentionally pdf 3.0 or pdf 30 :D 02:22:15 Maxim Alzoba: PDP.3.0 02:22:35 Rafik Dammak: Pdp , doing typo myself 02:22:57 Tatiana Tropina: I was wondering how PDP got into PDF 02:23:11 Rafik Dammak: blame the usual autocorrect 02:23:17 Tatiana Tropina: and those who don’t come will read the materials and weep :( 02:25:13 Marie Pattullo: We'll facetime you in, Tanya. 02:25:40 Maxim Alzoba: Ceviche for catering ? 02:25:49 Maxim Alzoba: as a suggestion for SPS :) 02:26:02 Michele Neylon: awww 02:26:03 Marie Pattullo: OOOOHHHHH. 02:26:07 Maxim Alzoba: eating class will do 02:26:10 Flip Petillion: ha 02:26:14 Tatiana Tropina: aaaa what am missing something new???? 02:26:30 Berry Cobb: https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/FY21+Budget+Process 02:26:30 Rafik Dammak: @tatiana something interesting ^^ 02:26:33 Tom Dale: Movie auditions? 02:26:38 Tatiana Tropina: Marie yes FaceTime me please — smoking corner 02:26:51 Tatiana Tropina: I suggest you all go to escape room. And I will die from envy! 02:26:59 Michele Neylon: ABRs for Council or for the entire GNSO? 02:27:05 Maxim Alzoba: could we do miniatures painting class? WH40k? 02:28:25 Michele Neylon: cool 02:29:17 Rafik Dammak: We need ideas or suggestions 02:30:40 Maxim Alzoba: council shirts? 02:30:55 Michele Neylon: I could come up with a LOT of really inane suggestions 02:31:07 Maxim Alzoba: please 02:31:36 Tatiana Tropina: Michele, please. 02:31:37 Tatiana Tropina: do 02:33:19 Maxim Alzoba: good night? 02:33:28 Rafik Dammak: not yet 02:33:44 Tatiana Tropina: 10 min of our lives back? 02:33:53 Marie Pattullo: 13! 02:33:56 Tatiana Tropina: no. Probably not. 02:33:57 Maxim Alzoba: no, we just live less 02:35:35 Steve Chan: Berry has his hand up :) 02:36:24 Michele Neylon: This looks a lot like bullet journal stuff 02:36:29 Michele Neylon: though not quite 02:39:43 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Bye for now everyone... All The Best of The Seasons Greetings to you all, if you travel over the holidays travel safe... 02:39:51 Maxim Alzoba: happy NY and X-mass 02:39:53 Flip Petillion: Happy Holidays ! 02:39:54 Maxim Alzoba: bye all 02:39:55 Pam Little, RrSG: Happy and safe holidays, everyone 02:39:55 Rafik Dammak: With homework, there will be quizzes 02:39:58 Tom Dale: Thanks. All the best for holidays! 02:39:58 Julf Helsingius: Happy holidays! 02:39:58 Tatiana Tropina: happy holidays all 02:39:59 Sam Lanfranco: Bye and thanks to all 02:39:59 Rafik Dammak: thanks all! 02:39:59 Osvaldo Novoa: Happy Holidays and best to all 02:40:00 Farell Folly: Greetings 02:40:02 Philippe Fouquart: All the best 02:40:02 Rafik Dammak: Happy holidays