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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team
Maxim Alzoba
40:18
hello all
Andrea Glandon
40:20
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Ariel Liang
41:19
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jQrzU9NDOlMwNw4zFcndOFEYhSIo3EAXAHTVirsMup8/edit#gid=0
Jeff Neuman
41:42
Just want to announce that the SubPro Report is now Final and has been submitted to the Council for its consideration.
Maxim Alzoba
44:43
subpro might not work for existing tlds
Jeff Neuman
45:36
I think it can be covered. How many SLDs in Variant TLDs do we have?
Maxim Alzoba
46:08
and there should be a review of what happens when two existing registrants oc different variants of the same domain exist
Maxim Alzoba
46:59
not all tables are created so far as I understand
Jeff Neuman
47:18
Are existing gTLDs doing that? I know ccTLDs may be. But what about gTLDs
Maxim Alzoba
47:38
this should be researched
Mark Datysgeld
49:35
+1 on research
Maxim Alzoba
52:08
subpro might be a policy, not a consensus one, and thus might not be binding for TLDs
Maxim Alzoba
52:11
existing
Ariel Liang
52:16
Yes, the wording of the relevant question has reflected Jeff’s point — is there any reason why such recommendation should be revised, etc.
Ariel Liang
52:42
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Jeff Neuman
53:27
@Maxim - it is a Consensus Policy (if 2/3 of the Council adopt it). But it doesn't apply to existing TLDs
Jeff Neuman
54:13
The only question is whether the policies apply to existing TLDs
Maxim Alzoba
56:25
we had a lot of conversations about unification among ccTLds and gtlds
Ariel Liang
56:41
Time check - We just have one minute left for this segment
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
59:01
agree Maxim: harmonization of the policy/ies for existing and future TLDs should be a consideration.
Ariel Liang
59:20
Charter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-f9Ml-z9LcxVs9WuX53kIkp29j0JLh6d/edit?ts=5fdb78e1
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:01:52
Agree Dennis. I'm sure we can find a balance.
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:08:55
We could have a reference/link to the mapping document.
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:09:37
Agree Dennis, and if it is not applicable to existing TLDs then the WG would need to resolve that problem.
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:17:26
the planets are unlikely to align to make the timing of the different efforts sequential.
Jeff Neuman
01:18:50
There is no question that the SubPro IRT needs experts to consider this question as part of their effort. But implementation (IRTs) are behind the development of policy
Jeff Neuman
01:21:44
A PDP requires a call for constituency statements, an Initial Report, several public comment periods, and then a Final Report
Jeff Neuman
01:22:11
Whereas an IRT is experts working with staff to implement
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:22:45
I think its a good idea for us to take a holistic approach approach at this time in an attempt to mitigate any potential gaps in various efforts.
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:23:04
I'm okay with Edmon's suggestion
Jeff Neuman
01:23:18
Donna, the holistic approach can be taken at the implementation level as this is an implementation
Edmon Chung
01:27:47
how is it different here? i feel we are not contradicting what jeff is saying
Jeff Neuman
01:28:11
Because the 2 efforts are in completely different phases.
Edmon Chung
01:28:31
as long as this IDN EPDP does not stop Subpro IRT from moving forward arent we good?
Edmon Chung
01:29:06
we just need to make this explicit in the charter?
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:29:26
agree Edmon
Ariel Liang
01:29:33
Dennis/staff agree with Jeff that questions a7) and a7-1 can be deleted, as self-identified variants don’t have legal standing. So if RZ-LGR is regarded as the sole source, then this question would be void
Jeff Neuman
01:29:56
I am saying it a little differently. This question should be referred to SubPro to make sure it considers and implements.
Ariel Liang
01:30:24
Leaving it here as Edmon has a comment to undelete these questions
Ariel Liang
01:33:13
[d]eclaring variant strings is informative only and will not imply any right or claim to the declared variant strings.” For more details see gTLD Applicant Guidebook, version 2012-06-04, section 1.3.3 IDN Variant TLDs, p.1-35: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/guidebook-full-04jun12-en.pdf
Mark Datysgeld
01:34:38
I do agree with the need for this process.
Maxim Alzoba
01:34:39
it should go with application, and during the round
Maxim Alzoba
01:34:56
next round
Steve Chan
01:36:38
That text Ariel copied into chat is also included as a footnote.
Jeff Neuman
01:37:37
So the question is still (a) are the self identified variants actually included in the contracts and (b) were they implemented. If the answer to either (a) or (b) is no, then there is nothing to do.
Ariel Liang
01:38:08
Most likely our work plan/agenda needs to be adjusted for next week…
Ariel Liang
01:39:27
DT members are welcome to provide comments on mailing list for the questions between meetings
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:40:00
Thanks Dennis
Edmon Chung
01:40:04
thx bye
Maxim Alzoba
01:40:04
thanks all
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
01:40:09
thanks all