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Prep Week Webinar: ICANN67 Update - Shared screen with speaker view
Miguel Ignacio Estrada
36:20
Is there any idea on the time zone to be used in the online meeting?
Jim Prendergast
36:35
That good to hear on the program David. To make the best of a difficult situation, we should not try and replicate what a typical ICANN meeting looks like in terms of total number of sessions. It needs to be pared down quite a bit and focus on the core of what needs to be accomplished so that we can get through this meeting on short notice in as best we can. That includes the toll this will take not only on the community members who participate remotely but also on the staff that support these efforts. That goes beyond the meetings/tech team to the policy support team and others.
Julf Helsingius
37:14
+1 Jim
Tobias Sattler
37:21
Is it out of question to cancel ICANN67 entirely instead of doing remote-only participation?
Alan Greenberg
37:58
How do you plan to address those in the community who do not have the communications capability to use Zoom, expecially if the meeting is held in non-business hours. Or those who have access to such communications but cannot afford it.
Caleb Ogundele
38:07
UTC seem to be adopted usually
Natalie Rose
38:29
As a fellow we need a letter to give to our employer so that we are not called into work.
hanan khatib
38:33
anybody can attend or only who were nominated to attend ICANN 67?
Miguel Ignacio Estrada
38:41
It would be a good thing to use Cancún time zone, so the region can have at least that benefit.
Jonathan Robinson
38:50
I have heard of some people planning to travel in any case because of committed plans to do so. Will ICANN / the official venues provide any support in Cancun for this?
Julf Helsingius
39:12
Natalie: wouldn't that have been case for being in person in Cancun too?
Natalie Rose
39:43
@Juff it would be different since I will not be leaving the country
Julf Helsingius
39:56
OK
Vittorio Bertola
39:57
Would it be possible to let the groups / people that still want to travel to Cancun (since people might have other commitments in the same trip, or just have already paid everything) actually meet in person using some of the space there? Why not do like the IETF, which will hold its meeting in person regularly and just make sure that those that do not feel like traveling can join remotely?
Annebeth Lange
40:31
For WG work the time zones are changing, so that all have good times and bad times for them, depending on where they live. Would this be a possibility, to have alternate time zones?
Caleb Ogundele
40:38
Will ICANN provide a travel to ICANN regional offices to provide for concentration of this meeting?
Vittorio Bertola
41:15
Also, how was the community’s opinion kept into account? In the leadership call, in online fora, etc, the community seemed to be broadly in favor of holding the meeting in Cancun as planned.
Susan Payne
41:24
QUESTION - do you have capacity to run the full meeting (as we'd previously envisaged it) or is there a reason to scale back for technical and/or staffing considerations, for example is there a limit on Zoom?
Susan Payne
41:53
To be clear, I'm not arguing for every single session necessarily, just trying to understand the considerations
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
42:01
Regarding Review Teams meeting before or after the planned ICANN67 schedule, We appreciated the appropriate alternate arrangement option, but with booked tickets now being cancelled and that will not be at no cost or effect on the RT Budget… what is the recognition of any effect on our available resources going to be
Caleb Ogundele
42:52
Will ICANN pay for the Internet specifically for folks from undeserved area with high cost of internet. E.g Africa
Ria Otanes
43:14
@Alan, we note your hand and will turn to you shortly
Vittorio Bertola
43:45
Could you disclose the cost of the cancellation to ICANN.org, in terms of penalties to be paid, non-refundable bookings being lost, etc?
Bruna Santos (NCUC)
43:46
Timeline for organizing a virtual meeting that would be compreensible for all timezones makes it definitely harder. LA is not a really appropriate timezone if you consider this meeting was focusing on outreaching to the LAC community .
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
43:47
or of additional bandwidth costs foer say video now for those with limited or say satellite connections as only option?
Alfredo Calderon
43:57
spent all morning dealing with hotel pre-paid and flight arrangements from my pocket.
Susan Payne
44:09
QUESTION - Is there any arrangement with the ICANN hotels who would have expected to charge cancellation fees at this late stage?
Caleb Ogundele
44:10
Why didn't ICANN consider the same strong measure APRICOT /APNIC and Australia government had for the just concluded APNIC meeting?
Priyatosh Jana
44:26
As a first time fellow I am disappointed that there is no deferal to next meeting and it will be counted one.It is difficult to attend the whole meeting remotely due to limited access of internet as well as time zone.Please consider us for the next possible community forum meeting as because it is important to new fellows
Kurt Pritz
44:37
COMMENT: I believe that effective remote meetings are a great possibility for ICANN - a way to demonstrate leadership in effective use of the net and making the community work more effective.Done well, such a meeting would take months to plan, with a markedly different scheduling methodology - and we only have days in this case.We should not base our opinion on the potential for remote meetings on the success or failures of this upcoming one. But this will provide a number of lessons for future planning - that planning should continue.
Caleb Ogundele
45:07
We learnt folks from inland China were banned from attending the APRICOT meeting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
46:26
<Comment> access to archive materials is NOT the same use as *Meeting* especially when trying to build consensus
Alfredo Calderon
46:32
<Question>So this Community Meeting will not involve any formal consensus or decision making?
Caleb Ogundele
47:02
Given the large cost of hosting, why was postponing to a future date say 1 /2 month not considered
Kurt Pritz
47:04
QUESTION: Can the Board, in the next two weeks or so, publish decision dates for the Malaysia meeting - the date by which a decision will be made? That will allow participants to plan their travel.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
47:18
@Alan, can you say more - are these people who would be traveling to ICANN for work, but can’t participate if it’s remote?
Tobias Sattler
47:58
Btw. CloudFest is happening one week later, and obviously it is going to happen https://blog.worldhostingdays.com/cloudfest-coronavirus-statement/
Alan Greenberg
48:33
Our adjusting out meeting plans will not suffice. We will need more concrete support from ICANN if this meeting is to be anywhere near as effective as a real F2F.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
48:56
@Kurt, makes sense to make a call as soon as possible, but from Washington Post this morning, Many international experts say the disease will continue to spread globally even as the Chinese government seeks to present the image that it is coming to grips with the epidemic. New cases inside China dropped again Wednesday, officials reported Thursday, after national authorities changed for the second time in a week the criteria for how cases are diagnosed and counted.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
48:57
Becky the issue is at a meeting interaction is equitable, if you are remote then it is NOT for lots of reasons including access to resources and costs of that access
Joan Kerr
49:24
Will ICANN consider offsetting the connection costs for those in places who cannot afford it
Manal Ismail
49:28
<Question> On behalf of GAC members who self-booked at ICANN67 hotels, will ICANN help in arranging with hotels to waive cancelation penalties, considering this “Force Majeure”? <Question>
Chris Disspain
49:44
@CLO…So we are talking about the small group of people who WOULD be physically in Cancun but would not normally be able to participate remotely?
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
49:57
I understand those issues @Cheryl. Was just looking to better understand Alan’s input regarding people being expected to work when they are in. The office.
Benny / Nordreg AB
50:30
Money saved from travelling can be spend on internet access
Vittorio Bertola
51:08
Sorry, I hope you don’t mind if I have more questions, even for later :-) Was there a request by Mexican public authorities to cancel the meeting, or was it just ICANN’s own initiative?
Robin Gross
51:35
Question: Rather than having air tickets cancelled for supported travelers who still wish to travel, may those community members have the option to buy their existing air ticket from ICANN (instead of having it cancelled)?
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
51:48
Sorry @kurt, meant to quote the section that said next three weeks would be critical
Bruna Santos (NCUC)
52:11
<Question> Is icann willing to adopt a different timeline for organizing the virtual meeting ? delay in 2/3 weeks or anything that would allow us a meeting that's not last minute organized ?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
52:46
#Chris if you consider Councils and Advisory Committee and Community Leadership a "small Group" then YES
Charles Tiné - SafeBrands
52:59
are you negotiating with hotels which are partners so they waive cancelation fees to participants ?
Chris Disspain
53:47
but @CLO I’m confused how those folks would not have access to zoom normally…How do they participate outside of f2f meetings?
Alan Greenberg
53:52
From Becky Burr, ICANN Board to Everyone: 01:17 PM@Alan, can you say more - are these people who would be traveling to ICANN for work, but can’t participate if it’s remote?Becky, I would be glad to. This chat is probably not the optimal way to do that though.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
54:14
Thanks Alan, would like to umderstand
David Olive
54:33
Nathalie Rose will be next
Kurt Pritz
54:33
@ Becky. I understand. Our fingers are poised on the purchase button of our favorite airlines. If we knew a date on which we were to receive *some kind* of communication from ICANN on Malaysia status, that would be helpful in planning Malaysia travel and the travel to other meetings on either side of the meeting.
Bruna Santos (NCUC)
54:43
In sorry, but these were not individual decisions, leaders were required to conduct community consultations. Then the assumption is that it does not have much value...
Owen Smigelski (Namecheap)
54:47
<QUESTION> Was the resolution to make ICANN67 remote passed unanimously by the board </QUESTION>
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
54:56
I have no issue with the Risk Management aspects of this decision to CANCEL the Face to Face meeting at this time, I have great concern on how we manage the Virtual Meeting EXPERIMENT
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
55:37
so not the decision but the planning at short notice issue
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
55:38
@Cheryl, well understood
Joan Kerr
55:50
We asked our community for their input and submitted as Chair on behalf of NPOC. It was not an individual response
Alan Greenberg
56:01
From Chris Disspain to Everyone: 01:23 PMbut @CLO I’m confused how those folks would not have access to zoom normally…How do they participate outside of f2f meetings?The answer is often "Not very well."
Caleb Ogundele
56:38
+1 Joan
Julf Helsingius
56:41
And access for a couple of hours a couple of times a week is not the same as all through the night for almost a week
Vittorio Bertola
57:14
Personally I disagree with the risk assessment, because such risk assessment is better done by public authorities and neither Mexico nor the World Healdh Organization consider the risk big enough to advice cancelling international meetings. This, by the way, is the same assessment made by the IETF, by APNIC and by several other organizations in the community. Just as a note :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
57:17
As ALAN said they often don't and it is a PAIN to manage larger nimbers of audio only people in Zoom meetongs especially interactive ones where we are talking NOT having the information from on high Webinar approach
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
57:22
Isn't this Covid-19 hyped? Flu season is hitting its stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000. Did ICANN get professional help regarding the actual risk of Covid-19?
Charles Tiné - SafeBrands
57:24
suggestion : in order to be able to organize the virtual meeting on a timely manner to accommodate most participants over the world we could imagine having a 2 weeks event instead of one week
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
57:26
@Joan and Caleb - we understood the input of SO/AC leaders to be broader than their personal view or position
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
57:32
sorry that was to help @Chris's confusion
Xavier Calvez
57:35
@kurt: fully agree.
Donna Austin, Neustar
57:40
I think we all understand the challenges and are all committed to making this work as best we can.
Vittorio Bertola
57:40
@Olivier agree.
Fernando
57:43
Thanks for the information, the decision should not have been easy, but there is a concern for the health of the attendees and possible involuntary spread of the virus.It is important to manage as many webinars and online meetings as necessary to cover all the topics that were scheduled.
Owen Smigelski (Namecheap)
57:50
I could not agree more with Olivier re: hysteria
Bruna Santos (NCUC)
58:11
+1
Vittorio Bertola
58:13
Also, what pisses me off is that this hysteria is spreading FUD and distrust against Asians everywhere on the planet.
Vittorio Bertola
58:23
And ICANN just joined the bandwagon, sorry.
Kurt Pritz
58:34
@Cheryl - being days out from the meeting, I don’t think there is time to adequately plan. We should avoid being critical of remote meetings as a possibility based on this rapidly approaching opportunity.
Filina Natalia
58:40
+1 to Olivier
herb.waye
59:00
Hello all, sorry for dropping in late
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
59:22
@Olivier - yes. Still hard to tell what the death rate of Covid-19 is, but it appears to be significantly higher than the flu.
Bruna Santos (NCUC)
59:37
<Question> Is icann willing to adopt a different timeline for organizing the virtual meeting ? delay in 2/3 weeks or anything that would allow us a meeting that's not last minute organized ?
Katrina Sataki (ccNSO)
59:40
Agree with Vittorio and Olivier
Priyatosh Jana
01:00:15
no audio
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:00:30
Rather my point as well @Kurt -> From Kurt Pritz to Everyone: 05:28 AM@Cheryl - being days out from the meeting, I don’t think there is time to adequately plan. We should avoid being critical of remote meetings as a possibility based on this rapidly approaching opportunity.
Annebeth Lange
01:00:41
I agree that it is a wise decision to cancel the meeting, especially in case someone get sick and the rest of us will be in quarantine. But as Cheryl, I really am sceptic about how a virtual meeting will be done. The time difference is one thing for a WG meeting an hour or two several times a week, but working remote the whole night, which it will be for many of us, that will be very difficult.
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:00:44
At-Large meetings were organised to take full advantage of the f2f situation by holding more interactive workshop sessions and to utilise the convenience of people being on site and available for participation in panel discussions. This will require a whole new set of coordination activities that may mean that the timeframe for a new session my become greatly extended due to everyone's other commitments outside of the conference..
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:01:18
I particularly appreciate the suggestions regarding how to make the virtual meeting a success.
Humberto Carrasco
01:01:29
I agree @maureen
Dave Kissoondoyal
01:01:33
I am not comfortable with the statement that community opinion is different from individuals opinions.
Fernando
01:01:56
It is important to understand that with all the security measures that can be taken, even so the constant mutation of the virus makes any measure 100% reliable, although the mortality rate is not clear nor the percentage of infection is clear due to lack of information on the Chinese gonierno; Those of us who work in security are monitoring the situation and public statistics daily. Fernando Gonz+alez desde México...
Joan Kerr
01:02:08
@Maureen: I was in the same situation.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:02:32
@Dave. - apologies. I just meant they were speaking. On behalf of. Their groups.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:02:38
Nothing else
Kurt Pritz
01:02:39
Before we break up, can you outline next steps - when will preliminary schedules be published?
Sam Lanfranco
01:02:40
Any way one looks at it, a virtual conference that covers a substantial amount of the agenda. Would it make more sense to divide up ICANN67 into a set of multiple sessions, with breathing/sleeping space in-between?
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:02:41
This will be a good opportunity in testing our collective abilities to prioritise.
Betty Fausta
01:02:46
if I can have past in MP what @Joan and @Caleb said
Martin Silva Valent
01:03:16
facilitate
tatianatropina
01:03:46
I don’t know how much time people have in their hands to extent virtual ICANN or postpone it. I have a week free on my schedule because I planned ICANN in Mexico, but otherwise I barely have time to attend anything that is not planned well in advance.
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:03:53
one issue with the virtual meeting is that it severely "penalizes" certain timezones which is a form of unfortunate yet inadvertent discrimination.
Vittorio Bertola
01:04:08
Could ICANN please set and communicate a clear, early date for a final decision on holding the meetings in Paris and Kuala Lumpur? It will otherwise be hard to convince people / employers to spend the money for expensive international flights with the doubt that ICANN will again cancel the meeting at the last minute.
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:04:23
@Tracy - the timezone consideration is important and understood. Working to optimize
Tobias Sattler
01:04:28
Question: The ICANN GDD Summit will take place in May. Will there be a timely decision, or will it be decided similar to ICANN67 at short notice?
Fernando
01:04:42
Of course @Donna Austin
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
01:04:48
@Becky - please state your source for allegation that the death rate for Covid-19 is higher than the flu. I have read exactly the opposite and the majority of people that have caught the virus appeared to have been cured in 5 days. I guess we all have different sources. Has CDC been consulted?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:05:00
pivotal work for SubPro (specifically with GAC) was also planned in F2F made and also concerned as we try to finish our work load effectivly
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:05:03
+1 @Maureen's comments as well
León Sánchez
01:05:08
just to be clear on how the resolutions were passed
Chris Lewis
01:06:08
+1 @Vittorio <Question> Will we have more notice and if so when will decisions be made, for the meetings in Paris and KL </>
León Sánchez
01:06:45
We first voted on whether to continue in Cancun... 5 board members voted to do so. The majority having voted not to continue we then voted to have the meeting virtually and on that vote all but 1 meber voted in favour
avri doria
01:07:02
and the final two .03 & .04 were unanimous
Joan Kerr
01:07:16
Much of our work in between meetings is to prepare for the f2f to solidify actions, debate, build consensus and collaborate.
León Sánchez
01:07:19
yes Avri. thanks
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:07:40
@Joan.. totally agree.
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:07:41
thanks for that transparency/clarity @Leon @Avri. Very much appreciated.
Xavier Calvez
01:08:17
Agree with David. No offense was meant. I was also responding to a broader concern than the specific one that you asked Alan.
Filina Natalia
01:08:21
Thanks @Leon. +1 to Joan Kerr
Vittorio Bertola
01:08:29
@Becky - I wish ICANN success, sincerely, but I doubt that anyone can organize a fully remote ICANN meeting in two weeks that can work for anyone but a small set of privileged people in the right timezone and with high end computers and connectivity.
Alan Greenberg
01:08:31
The people on this call do not need to be told that we will not spend money just because it is available. We are all responsible professionals.
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:09:08
thanks @Becky re: understanding and optimizing re: potential "timezone discrimination"
Tobias Sattler
01:09:15
@Leon/Becky: Was it considered to cancel it entirely? Or was it just f2f vs. remote?
Joan Kerr
01:10:14
In terms of participation: will regional hubs be considered
Vittorio Bertola
01:10:35
Let’s be clear: if ICANN has even a vague inclination towards cancelling Paris and/or KL, please do it *now*.
Chris Disspain
01:11:03
Caleb, those were government restrictions not APRICO or apTLD restrictions
Tobias Sattler
01:11:04
+1 Vittorio
Vittorio Bertola
01:11:31
Also Paris is back to back with OARC, please make sure they are aligned.
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:11:32
Great question/suggestion @Joan re: Regional Hubs. That seemed to have disappeared following the post NetMundial experiments.
Chris Disspain
01:12:05
Tobias, yes, in agreeing to go virtual’ we discussed not doing so
Alisha
01:12:33
why was the fellowship not deferred?for many it was their first time experience and face to face meeting would always be a better experience I suppose. Moreover this would be taken as one of the fellowship opportunities. and the timing difference would make things difficult. so was wondering why was deferring not considered..
León Sánchez
01:12:39
@tobias all options were assessed and considered. i.e. F2F vs virtual vs not at all
Katrina Sataki (ccNSO)
01:12:45
Question: As the Board (all but 1) supported the idea of holding a virtual meeting, maybe they could share what exactly did they have in mind?
Vittorio Bertola
01:12:58
Re: regional hubs, fine if some people want to do it, but after having bought and wasted flights to Mexico, I doubt many will want to spend more money to fly to Brussels or wherever.
KEOLEBOGILE Rantsetse
01:13:09
It appears there will be no deferral for icann67 fellows to other future meetings
siranush.vardanyan
01:13:21
@Alisha, your question is noted and will be discussed for further consideration
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:13:28
@Olivier, CDC says mortality rate has been steadily at 2% plus, while ordinary flu is .1%. Will send you the links. But obviously, there is a lot that is unknown.
León Sánchez
01:13:46
can you and léase clarify your question Katrina? I’m not understanding it fully
Joan Kerr
01:14:27
I think this was the best decision overall, and must have been a hard one for the board
Charles Tiné - SafeBrands
01:14:38
to make it clear : has the paris meeting been discussed and have you a date for a decision ?
siranush.vardanyan
01:14:42
thanks, well noted
Mason Cole
01:14:43
<question> What provision is being made, if any, for penalties for hotel cancellations? <question>
Chris Disspain
01:14:56
@ Joan - after 8 years on the bklbard I can say it was one of the hardest I’ve ever had to make
Dave Kissoondoyal
01:15:10
238 participants on Zoom
Rodrigo Alexandre
01:15:22
Thank you for taking in consideration the Nexgen and icann fellowship programs
Fernando
01:15:26
Thanks...
Vittorio Bertola
01:15:26
@Chris Of course it was a hard decision, no one thinks it was easy. Don’t take our disappointment personally, please :-)
Dave Kissoondoyal
01:15:29
how many on phone audio please?
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:15:30
Comment: One of the most important purposes of the F2F meeting is the opportunity for networking with other sections of the ICANN community that we would not normally engage in as part of normal meeting activities. These contacts often add value to the work we do collectively within ICANN. We will miss those opportunities especially as the first meeting of the year when we are coordinating our group activities.
Katrina Sataki (ccNSO)
01:15:33
@Leon: you voted on having a virtual meeting. Was it just an idea or you had a clear vision of how it might look like?
Filina Natalia
01:15:48
Thank ICANN for taking care of our health and protection. But in general: does the decision to travel each participant does not mean their own responsibility to agree to a certain risk?
Priyatosh Jana
01:16:20
+1 Alisha
Chris Disspain
01:16:43
we had an excellent outline plan presented by Ash and his colleagues
Chris Disspain
01:16:56
But there is much work to do to flush the plan out
Chris Disspain
01:17:17
But, as León says, it is an experiment
Lito Ibarra
01:17:36
Filina: We also took into consideration the possibility of someone could bring the virus into Mexico
Viviane Vinagre
01:17:37
+1 Maureen
ICANN RP
01:17:42
@Dave Kissoondoyal - everyone on the bridge is included in the overall count (currently 237). We have had a total of 311 join at some point during this session.
Mason Cole
01:17:53
<question> What provision is being made, if any, for penalties for hotel cancellations? <question>
Charles Tiné - SafeBrands
01:18:00
FYI just cancelled my booking at the grand fiesta hotel which was one of the partners of the event and they applied no cancelation penalty
Martin Silva Valent
01:18:04
+100 Leon
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:18:07
the silence is deafening re: how the meeting will look.
Katrina Sataki (ccNSO)
01:18:26
@Chris: is the outline plan public?
zzz - arnaud wittersheim (rySG alt)
01:18:28
What will be the time zone of the live meetings? Are the meetings going to be set in the Mexican time zone as Mexico was planned for icann67?
Filina Natalia
01:18:29
Understand @Lito, thanks
Priyatosh Jana
01:18:32
question - No Deferal really disappointing for new fellows
Mary Wong
01:18:38
@Mason, we noted similar questions being asked previously, and will try to answer the question of costs, penalties and alternative arrangements in the FAQ.
Maureen Hilyard (ALAC)
01:18:39
As an experiment, and At-Large has been asked to be innovative in their attempts to create an interesting virtual activity - if there are any costs required to implement this, can they be made available?
Keith Drazek (Verisign)
01:18:48
The SO/AC/CG/C leaders have a call scheduled for Friday with ICANN leadership to discuss next steps and logistics.
Chris Disspain
01:18:56
@Katrina - no, still a work in prgress
Katrina Sataki (ccNSO)
01:19:20
@Chris: thanks
Tobias Sattler
01:19:28
@Chris: Was the plan an overall plan or just a technical feas
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:19:41
There are questions un-responded to in the chat but I assume they will be reviewed later in the FAQ or directly (like mine re RT budgets
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:19:44
@maureen - available meaning covered by ICANN? Just want to note your question clearly
León Sánchez
01:20:07
i have a question too David
Tobias Sattler
01:20:24
@Chris: Was the plan an overall plan or just a technical feasibility to hold it remotely?
Mary Wong
01:20:24
@Cheryl - yes. We have noted all the questions, particularly those involving costs.
Eduardo Diaz - NARALO
01:20:37
<Q> When does the FAQ list be available <Q>
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
01:20:46
My opinion is that ICANN's business insurance should be able to cater for cancellation of meetings and participants that are out of pocket should be able to claim.
tolgakaprol
01:20:54
I have the same concerns as Alisha
Xavier Calvez
01:21:16
@Mason Cole: I think this question was addressed earlier and it will be included in the FAQ that we will publish. As I mentioned earlier in the session, in answering this question, ICANN org will base its response on its commitments, contractual or otherwise, to determine what disbursements are made.
Firuz Azimov
01:21:24
please consider transferring the fellowship program to the next meeting, all of us made long way to attend face-to-face meeting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:21:30
Thanks @Mary just double checking ;-)
Raoul Plommer
01:21:33
Are all ICANN funded travel going to be cancelled, because if the ticket was non-refundable, I'd still like to use the tickets and go to Cancun. I actual,ly now NEED to go to Mexico and I can imagine that there are many others.
Chris Disspain
01:21:36
@ Tobias - technical feasibility
siranush.vardanyan
01:21:43
@fellows: we understand your concern related to deferral, our team is already discussing this and we will be back to all fellows shortly
Mason Cole
01:22:02
Thanks @Xavier. I'm interested in whether or not the hotels will waive penalties. Not that ICANN will pay for the penalties.
Vittorio Bertola
01:22:05
@Raoul I am also in need of going to Cancun anyway, as I had planned other things in the same intercontinental trip, including the IETF in Vancouver.
Firuz Azimov
01:22:09
Thank you @siranush
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:22:46
@mason, someone above reported a no cancellation fee experience
Martin Silva Valent
01:22:49
I understand and share the reasoning of the Board and ICANN Staff. This challenge should put the community on their feet to creatively adapt.
ISOC Islamabad
01:22:50
Thank you very much for taking into consideration the deferral of ICANN Fellows to next ICANN meeting.
Barbara Wanner
01:22:50
Good suggestion, Leon. Thank you.
Alisha
01:23:11
agreed leon
Kristian Ørmen
01:23:21
I don’t think my wife and kids would accept a letter from ICANN :)
León Sánchez
01:23:24
thanks David
Xavier Calvez
01:24:00
@Kirstian: my wife will not accept it either…!
Raoul Plommer
01:24:16
Thanks for noticing @Becky and Vittorio
Alisha
01:24:30
and thank you @siranush. hope fellowships deferral is further looked into.
Keolebogile
01:26:14
I also wish fellowship deferral is taken into consideration. Thanks @Siranush
Raoul Plommer
01:26:15
Some people have organised their life to go to Cancun physically and have non-refundable flights. I hope these aren't cancelled all at once.
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:26:27
Well said Ejikeme
Xavier Calvez
01:26:32
Well said
Martin Silva Valent
01:26:37
+100 Ejikeme, we should be able to overcome working virtually if a world health issue is relevant enough
Alisha
01:26:37
well said @ejikeme
Vittorio Bertola
01:26:41
Just another comment on the timezone: I think that it would be fair to keep the Mexican timezone as reference, both to facilitate the LAC region in what was meant to be “their” easy meeting, and to facilitate those who will bravely defy the virus and travel anyway.
Rodrigo Alexandre
01:26:47
reallly well said
Chris Disspain
01:26:57
I need to leave the call now. Thank you to all for attending, to the extraordinary Org team for getting this all together and for being here to support us all through this experiment…Cheers to all
Dave Kissoondoyal
01:26:57
Thanks and sincere hope that ICANN67 be a successful one same as previous meetings
Miguel Ignacio Estrada
01:26:59
+1 Vittorio
Manal Ismail
01:27:02
Many thanks David and all 230+ participants ..
Sarah Kiden
01:27:06
Thank you!
Joan Kerr
01:27:13
Let's try and make the remote participation a success
Mary Wong
01:27:15
Thanks to everyone for attending and for your questions and constructive suggestions!
Katarina
01:27:16
thanks
Joan Kerr
01:27:30
Thanks everyone
Filina Natalia
01:27:34
thanks all
Herb Waye Ombudsman
01:27:37
All the best everyone, thanks ICANN & Board for the info
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:27:41
Bye, looking forward to the next steps in all this...
Danko Jevtović iPad
01:27:41
Thanks David, good call
Kristina Hakobyan
01:27:42
thanks all, bye
Raymond Mamattah
01:27:43
Thanks for this webinar.
arnaud wittersheim
01:27:45
thanks all
Lito Ibarra
01:27:46
Thanks everyone
Becky Burr, ICANN Board
01:27:47
Thanks everyone
Vittorio Bertola
01:27:47
Thanks for the responses.
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (IGF CHAD)
01:27:49
thanks ;merci beaucoup
Laura Margolis
01:27:49
thank you!
Michelle DeSmyter
01:27:50
Thank you!
hanan khatib
01:27:51
tank you all
Imran Hossen ( EyHost )
01:27:51
thanks
León Sánchez
01:27:52
thanks everyone
Rodrigo Alexandre
01:27:52
Thanks for the webinar
silvia.vivanco
01:27:55
Thank you all
Tracy F. Hackshaw
01:27:55
thanks everyone
Natalie Rose
01:27:55
Good meeting
Firuz Azimov
01:27:55
thanks
Harold Arcos
01:27:59
thanks
Tripti Sinha
01:27:59
Thank you.
Alisha
01:28:02
thank you
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (IGF CHAD)
01:28:05
Webinar informatif
Afia Faith
01:28:10
thank you all
Omir Kerr (ISOC - SVG)
01:28:12
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