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Julie Bisland

25:40

Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Thursday, 30 January 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

26:31

Lunar New Year

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

26:56

I get plenty of practice :-)

Julie Hedlund

27:18

Here’s the link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kUlmZH8nxWTgfcRluA5FxLheMm4XhhOwkRt7om52aQU/edit?usp=sharing

Annebeth Lange

28:39

Hello, I cannot hear anything

Annebeth Lange

29:09

There I got the sound

Julie Bisland

29:38

Thank you, Annebeth, welcome :)

Paul McGrady

31:19

@Jeff - will those two distinct categories be identified throughout the report?

Paul McGrady

32:56

Thanks Jeff!

Paul McGrady

33:39

I like Must /should

Elaine Pruis

34:51

apologies for being late

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

35:29

Welcome @Elaine

avri doria

35:51

With the should class, will there also be an example or type of a case that shows why it isn't a must?

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

37:59

Examples (clear and effective ones) are a useful tool IMO

avri doria

40:39

thanks

Donna Austin, Neustar

45:23

Martin Sutton

49:33

@Donna - it may work out worthwhile for them to go thru the pre-app process

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

50:22

I would think 1 time was in keeping with the original discussions we held in WT4

Donna Austin, Neustar

50:25

I agree Martin, but some may be late to the game and not have time for pre-approval.

Paul McGrady

52:46

@Jeff, we may want to create a third category: Must/should/might. ICANN ?might" want to grant price breaks for multiple applicants for the financial and background checks.

Justine Chew

54:38

The timing of when various evaluations are conducted also matter. As a side point, there was a suggestion that evaluation (background screening?) be conducted twice - once during application and second, prior contracting.

Justine Chew

56:26

Sure, just on timing of evaluations - financials change over time, perhaps technical may not.

Katrin Ohlmer

56:54

+1 Justine, esp. on financials

Maxim Alzoba

58:19

hello all, sorry for being late, calendar got borked

Paul McGrady

01:00:41

Freud!

Annebeth Lange

01:00:50

I agree

Maxim Alzoba

01:00:51

I hope to pass the sanity check this time :)

Justine Chew

01:03:06

+1 Jeff, on your point re "Application fees may differ for applicants" - it is somewhat confusing.

Emily Barabas

01:04:09

hand up

Maxim Alzoba

01:04:12

from time to time?

Emily Barabas

01:06:08

Ah, thanks for pointing that out Donna

Emily Barabas

01:06:11

that was not the intention

Martin Sutton

01:06:38

+1 Donna

Annebeth Lange

01:06:59

+1 Donna

Phil Buckingham

01:08:18

what ? so when is it adjusted ?

Phil Buckingham

01:08:32

exactly Paul

Maxim Alzoba

01:08:51

last time TMCH 5k usd were added on the top

Paul McGrady

01:09:26

Seems like this has to happen before applications submitted

Rubens Kuhl

01:09:33

The 5k TMCH added on top was later given back, exactly because it was part of the scope that based the original 185k.

Liz Brodzinski

01:09:48

+1 Paul

Maxim Alzoba

01:10:16

yes, but they were given back

Maxim Alzoba

01:10:19

later

Maxim Alzoba

01:10:22

Maxim Alzoba

01:10:55

and they wew given back to registries, not necessary applicants :)

Rubens Kuhl

01:11:30

Maxim, that's true, but giving back to registries was what we could get from ICANN Org. We suggested going further.

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:11:51

It was only given back because ICANN org. agree it was double accounting.

Maxim Alzoba

01:12:05

cost recovery for the organization able to consume any amount... is troubled

Justine Chew

01:15:33

+1 Donna, or a diagram of some sort. Text is convoluted.

Martin Sutton

01:15:43

@Maxim - thankfully there are responsible folk that will monitor and provide their feedback in the process :-)

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:15:56

Yes again clear examples are useful to prsent

Emily Barabas

01:18:30

hand up

Emily Barabas

01:18:48

Is this plan intended to be the administrative arrangements for where ICANN keeps the money?

Emily Barabas

01:18:53

Comment from Donna

Phil Buckingham

01:20:51

yes there is meant to be a separate extra segregated fund set up

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:20:55

Exactly @Emily

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:21:14

'communicated in advance' is an important inclusion.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:21:37

clarity and predicabliity again is key along with transparency and Accountability of course!

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:22:50

Thanks Jeff and Emily

Justine Chew

01:25:09

This is where the example using figures or diagram would be super useful!

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:25:37

Wholeheartedly agree Justine

Phil Buckingham

01:26:28

+1 Justine

Annebeth Lange

01:26:40

+1 Justine

Phil Buckingham

01:29:09

it is a minefield ( from an accounting point of view ) ! . suggestion ICANN finance figure out the cost recalibration recovery !

Justine Chew

01:29:57

Perhaps tack "where possible" in respect of refunding excess fees?

Martin Sutton

01:31:13

We can park it but it will have future implications, particularly on a global basis

Robin Gross

01:33:02

+1 Justine

Martin Sutton

01:34:36

I like Donna’s suggestion re: global communication

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:34:47

Agreed

Annebeth Lange

01:36:06

Good idea from Donna on global communication. That might make it easier.

Justine Chew

01:36:15

I would like to think that the segregated fund is off limits to "loans to ICANN".

Paul McGrady

01:38:40

I would like a "must" here.

Justine Chew

01:39:50

So a recommendation instead of IG?

Annebeth Lange

01:39:56

+1 Justine

Justine Chew

01:40:00

@Paul?

Paul McGrady

01:41:01

Yes

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:41:15

Agree 'must'

Emily Barabas

01:41:22

We could also add an additional item

Emily Barabas

01:41:25

that is a recommendation

Robin Gross

01:41:28

Agreed

Justine Chew

01:41:30

+1 for recommendation

Phil Buckingham

01:41:31

yes agree

Emily Barabas

01:41:32

on top of the Implementation Guidance

Emily Barabas

01:42:06

Sorry, moved which item?

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:43:28

Forget my comment about %, I know it's near impossible to do.

Rubens Kuhl

01:44:33

Perhaps a value like USD 50k ?

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:44:51

The one variable that will remain unknown is number of applications.'

Rubens Kuhl

01:45:07

(Not that I'm fond for having a floor, but it seems that people like having that)

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:45:25

I'm not fond of it either Rubens.

Martin Sutton

01:47:34

A nominal value would be sensible, I think

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:48:13

personally I agree @Martin

Annebeth Lange

01:48:56

So do I

Martin Sutton

01:50:03

And for applicants, this is an asset, without even using it

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:50:03

time check

Donna Austin, Neustar

01:50:04

Justine Chew

01:50:04

Yes, I support inclusion of para c.

Julie Bisland

01:50:25

NEXT CALL: Monday, 03 February 2020 at 15:00 UTC for 90 minutes.

Robin Gross

01:50:36

Good progress today.

Paul McGrady

01:50:45

Thanks Jeff!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

01:50:46

Thanks everyone Bye for now

Heather Forrest

01:50:47

Bye all, happy weekend

avri doria

01:50:52

thanks, bye

Katrin Ohlmer

01:50:58

thanks, bye

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