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Michelle DeSmyter's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Sue Schuler
30:45
Welcome to the meeting of the RA/RAA Amendment Discussion Group. Please announce your name before speaking for purposes of the transcript. Please mute your microphone when not speaking to help maintain sound quality. Thanks
Maxim Alzoba
31:00
hello all
Sam Demetriou
31:01
How did it go???
Beth Bacon
31:11
Congrats!
Maxim Alzoba
31:15
what is the URL?
Maxim Alzoba
31:19
of the doc
Sue Schuler
31:23
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iQ0QxIlOS_ObSyHdF0lguuZ_EYAa8-tU0iiiLaeH3eM/edit
Beth Bacon
31:34
That’s awesome hah
Donna Austin, Chair RySG
31:40
Great that you could make it happen Jeff.
Maxim Alzoba
31:55
voice is cracking
Beth Bacon
32:01
It’s everyone
Catherine Merdinger
32:02
Very cracky
Maxim Alzoba
32:09
do you have bluetooth headset + mac magic mouse?
Maxim Alzoba
32:53
it might cause such sound
Maxim Alzoba
33:44
turning mouse off helps
Jody Kolker
34:45
+1 Jim
Maxim Alzoba
35:08
in whois searchable part is not regulated
Maxim Alzoba
35:24
but here , formally they might try to apply it , for example to search of 1M records
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
37:13
Apologies!
Maxim Alzoba
37:33
also - imagine , that the auth takes 1 min?
Maxim Alzoba
39:26
with RDAP , we effectively have open ended text, we can not agree to open ended items
Maxim Alzoba
40:05
I remind us all, that compliance reads texts their way, not taking into account explanations used in the process of a policy work
Maxim Alzoba
41:41
so the formal reading needs to allow us to survive :)
Donna Austin, Neustar
41:43
good idea to include exclusions
Maxim Alzoba
42:45
not just URLs, but URLs and Texts behind it
Maxim Alzoba
44:35
also adding versions of the docs and checksums might help a lot in trackingЖ)
Maxim Alzoba
44:37
:)
Maxim Alzoba
45:55
CTRL-F ramp
Maxim Alzoba
46:21
180 days to implement as I understood
Zoe Bonython
46:28
It should be 180 day
Maxim Alzoba
46:30
from the Registrars point of view
Zoe Bonython
46:33
Probably a typo
Maxim Alzoba
46:52
day or days - which is grammatically correct?
Zoe Bonython
47:10
It’s definitely 180
Maxim Alzoba
47:22
180 days
Zoe Bonython
47:30
Sorry for the confusion!
Maxim Alzoba
48:02
@James: do ROs depend on IANA bootstrap file?
Maxim Alzoba
48:35
what happens to RDAP of ROs and RRs , fi IANA borks the file?
James Galvin (Afilias)
49:25
@maxim - that is subject to some discussion in RDAP working group.
Maxim Alzoba
50:09
currently they are messing with the versions of the txt lists of the tLDs (incorrect checksums) http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt where it is not compatible with http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt.md5
Maxim Alzoba
50:33
the explanation was last time - ouch … we have CDNs and they have issues with sync ...
Maxim Alzoba
51:01
I am trying to translate this idea to legal ideas
Maxim Alzoba
51:13
new hand
Maxim Alzoba
51:47
like SLAs are not applicable if IANA / ICANN sources ____ are not reachable or supply incorrect data
Maxim Alzoba
52:21
can we add a note - please translate it into lezalese ICANNeze
Maxim Alzoba
53:10
it is hard to prove that it went off rails, if the connections are not obvious
Maxim Alzoba
53:51
or bootstrap response time is more than 6000 :) , when formally it works (but badly)
Maxim Alzoba
54:24
new hand
Maxim Alzoba
55:00
we are responsible for our ISPs , Telcos perfomance … power companies e.t.c.
Maxim Alzoba
55:09
so writing third parties will not woek
Maxim Alzoba
55:11
work
Maxim Alzoba
55:27
one time is enough
Maxim Alzoba
55:29
for EBERO
Maxim Alzoba
56:14
your SLAs can not be better than combined SLAs of all parts (including IANA)
Maxim Alzoba
57:02
new hand :)
Maxim Alzoba
59:00
deterioration of SLAs caused by IANA/ ICANN does not count as SLA breach
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:45
I am not sure about Force Majeure … formally requirement of geo diversity of RO nodes comes out of idea, that all nodes should not die from a single tactical nuke :) in reality it will affect large territories and most probably most IPS beyond military ones just do not survive the next seconds after it
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:46
I wonder how many generations of old tech we need to support the same time ? we are not supporting Gopher interfaces for example
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:04:02
(joined… sorry, conflict for first part)
Maxim Alzoba
01:14:56
ICANN and/or IANA
Maxim Alzoba
01:15:11
bootstrap file
Maxim Alzoba
01:15:49
for RRs
Maxim Alzoba
01:15:52
mostly
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:20
they need to know other Registrars RDAPs
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:36
also list of ROs RDAPs
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:27
it is one of the examples
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:01
example of IANA issues with sync: currently they are messing with the versions of the txt lists of the tLDs (incorrect checksums) http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt where it is not compatible with http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt.md5
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:18
sometimes due to CDNs poor perfomance
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:57
and IANA
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:19:23
multi-paragraphs. i like it!
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:19:24
Apologies: I have to step away for about 10 minutes.
Maxim Alzoba
01:19:28
formally we all have Force Majeure now in our countries - COVID thing
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:19:45
multi-paragraphy - okay got it that time. I like it!
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:20:02
I think we are good, impressive!
Maxim Alzoba
01:21:24
and then we follow orders :)
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:21:43
Thanks everyone!
Maxim Alzoba
01:21:43
bye all and good night, stay healthy
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:21:46
thanks all!
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:21:49
stay safe!