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Michelle DeSmyter's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Sue Schuler
30:51
Welcome to the meeting of the RA/RAA Amendment Discussion Group. Please announce your name before speaking for purposes of the transcript. Please mute your microphone when not speaking to help maintain sound quality. thanks
Jeff Neuman
31:42
I extensively went through the registrar doc and am partially done with registry doc review
Jeff Neuman
31:47
so can we start on registrar one
James Galvin (Afilias)
32:22
i’ve been through the registry doc but not the registrar doc.
James Galvin (Afilias)
33:06
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r1iFhqZSyIEbfMkNZF0wxY29AvwJvESdWELmlCCSRSI/edit
James Galvin (Afilias)
33:13
registry is here:
James Galvin (Afilias)
33:24
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JITDaIrZuHX6Exfm6jMFCxjwom-a_oft08GW-rr1T8/edit#
James Galvin (Afilias)
34:56
i agree as general principle. you can’t map directly from WHOIS to RDAP. it’s about the overall service.
Donna Austin, Neustar
38:00
is it just me or is Jeff's audio scratchy?
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
38:19
Apologies for being late
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
38:28
and yes, scratchy for me too :)
Donna Austin, Neustar
38:38
welcome JC. Jeff is just going through the RAA.
James Galvin (Afilias)
38:58
the web-based WHOIS should be a dead service for all. this is one of our points of discussion generally.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
41:57
Is there a definition of Registration Data in the RA?
Jeff Neuman
42:22
I did not check
Jeff Neuman
42:26
yet
Catherine Merdinger
44:02
Just did a ctrl+f for registration data in the RA and I’m not seeing a definition
Jeff Neuman
44:26
@Catherine - then it is similar to the RAA
Jeff Neuman
45:18
a bunch of lower case instances of registration data and Registry Data Directory Services
Catherine Merdinger
45:27
Yes, it looks pretty much the same
Beth Bacon (PIR)
47:11
The EPDP defines the Aggregate Minimum Data Set wrt what is collected/transferred by various parties.
Donna Austin, Neustar
52:22
Helpful addition, thanks Jeff
James Galvin (Afilias)
58:26
they always wanted it. as Jeff says, it’s where they started.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
59:13
yes
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:00:27
+1 rick. that’s an important point for us to keep in mind.
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:00:29
so I think you've hit on why they want it Rick
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:01:07
it’s the “bulk” query requests that are sounding the alarm.
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:02:11
makes no sense in the same way that this is not a “transition from WHOIS to RDAP”. they simply do not compare directly.
Brian King
01:02:30
I’m not sure it’s entirely true that only data miners need faster SLAs, but we should insist that the SLAs in our contracts remain reasonable and we’re not unduly burdened.
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:02:31
it's not apples and apples
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:02:45
+1 donna
Jeff Neuman
01:04:37
I think there has to be some level of overlap (which is why we have the Emergency Threshold language as well(
Jeff Neuman
01:07:16
Yep
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:13:02
encourage adoption?! what a novel concept!
Jeff Neuman
01:13:09
@Rick - that would be a benefit
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:13:21
ok, i can see that. it makes sense to me.
Jeff Neuman
01:13:23
I do see the merit of that, even if it does introduce some complexity
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:15:04
i can see the merit in asking and see if they bite.
Jeff Neuman
01:15:13
@Rick / @James we should do a flow chart and do the pros and cons
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:15:15
i could go either way though. simplicity does speak for itself.
Owen Smigelski (Namecheap)
01:15:34
I need to drop off- something urgent just came in
Catherine Merdinger
01:15:51
I support the gradual switch over, it seems much less risky to me and makes the pill easier to swallow
Donna Austin, Neustar
01:15:53
Agree Jeff, I think we do need to document this in some way so we can have more thoughtful consideration.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:16:50
I’ll drop a note to the list
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:25:10
+1 to Jim’s comments
Jeff Neuman
01:25:46
@Graeme - absolutely
Jeff Neuman
01:25:51
Sure!
Jeff Neuman
01:26:05
Lets get a transcript of Jim's last comment :)
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:26:23
you called it!
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:26:31
we didn’t do anything.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:26:41
I thought we were defining the profile
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:26:50
but Jim is right… we didn’t do anything
Jeff Neuman
01:26:54
oh....both need to be defined
Jeff Neuman
01:27:01
sorry, my bad
Jeff Neuman
01:28:08
Yes
Jeff Neuman
01:28:20
This was helpful (at least for me)
Jeff Neuman
01:28:37
I think we will be ready
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:28:50
Namescon’s on the 29 indeed
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:29:38
I think we could give ourselves an extra week? it was such a slow start…
Jeff Neuman
01:29:48
I think maybe a pdf of redlines without comments?
Jeff Neuman
01:31:29
ok.
Catherine Merdinger
01:31:32
Friday sounds lovely
Sue Schuler
01:31:41
same time?
Jeff Neuman
01:31:48
No
Jeff Neuman
01:31:52
That's a little late
Jeff Neuman
01:31:56
especially for Europeans
Jeff Neuman
01:31:58
on a friday
Jeff Neuman
01:32:20
plus I have theater tickets :)
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:32:26
Love spending our Friday nights with you guys :)
Jeff Neuman
01:32:32
no problem!
J.C. Vignes (Uniregistry)
01:32:34
Thanks Jeff!!
Catherine Merdinger
01:32:40
Thanks everyone!
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:32:41
bye all. thanks!
Brian King
01:32:42
thanks all