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Remediating Universal Acceptance Issues - Shared screen with speaker view
Mark Datysgeld
01:05:03
Glad to see you, Nitin. EAI WG warriors representing.
Priyatosh Jana_ICANN Fellow
01:05:23
Hello everyone
Sarmad Hussain - ICANN Org
01:05:31
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Maxim Alzoba
01:05:38
Hello all
Maxim Alzoba
01:07:02
finally the meeting schedule offered a good time slot to UA group
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01:07:17
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01:09:27
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Mark Datysgeld
01:09:55
Would you believe that @Maxim. We got a schedule upgrade. :P
Keiron Tobin
01:10:25
<Question> Has any work been done in relation to punycode? If so, for accents on domains etc, is this something that you’re also working towards? <Question>
Maxim Alzoba
01:11:26
@Mark, that was done perfectly
Roberto
01:13:55
Sorry for being late
Raitme Citterio
01:14:03
hello
Jothan Frakes
01:14:38
Hello
Ajay Data (अजय)
01:15:10
Hello Everyone.. Thank you for joining in.
Mark Datysgeld
01:17:00
"Considerations for Naming Internationalized Email Mailboxes" is very interesting for anyone interested in email administration: https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/documents/UASG028-en-digital.pdf
Ajay Data (अजय)
01:17:15
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Keiron Tobin
01:19:09
Thank you, @Mark
Mark Datysgeld
01:19:47
You are welcome, @Keiron.
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:20:28
Quick Guide to Email Address Internationalization (EAI) Reporthttps://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/documents/UASG014-en-digital.pdfAn introduction to EAI (Email Address Internationalization), and items for email software developers and email service providers to consider.
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:21:12
Evaluation of EAI Support in Email Software and Services Report (UASG30 Report)The report studies the support Email Addresses Internationalization (EAI) of the different email systems and tools. It test the different components of the email technology stack, the Mail User Agent (MUA), Mail Submission Agent (MSA), Mail Transfer Agent (MTA), Mail Delivery Agent (MDA), and Mail Service Provider (MSP). Different groups of tests were performed on different software packages beside additional tests for Webmail servicesReport is translated to the UN 6 languages: https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/documents/UASG030-en-digital.pdf
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:22:31
Country-Based Evaluation of Websites for Acceptance of Email Addresses in 2020 (UASG027 report), follow up previous testing done in 2018 and 2019 (UASG025), this document evaluates the acceptance rates of internationalized email addresses by websites in different countries.https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/documents/UASG027-en-digital.pdfThis report was referenced in Mark’s previous slide
Bill Jouris
01:22:46
<QUESTION>Do you also have statistics on less complex expansions? For example Greek, Cyrillic, or non-ASCII Latin glyphs.</QUEWSTION>
Bill Jouris
01:24:04
"glyphs" being letters, with or without diacritic marks
Bill Jouris
01:25:26
Thank you
Mark Datysgeld
01:25:45
Chinese has the open dot which complicates matters a lot, for example.
Mark Svancarek
01:27:49
I have to run again! Thank you all for supporting UASG and Universal Acceptance!
SARIKA GULYANI
01:31:47
Hello Everyone
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:37:19
https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/documents/UASG031-en-digital.pdf
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:37:59
FAQ related to the UA readiness of programming languages and framework
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:40:18
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Marc Blanchet
01:46:08
on first question: there is a lot of work there. So I would suggest something around the low-hanging fruits: i.e. tasks that provide high return with relative low efforts. Easy to say, but there are places within the various charts shown before that could be identified as low-hanging fruits.
Sivasubramanian M
01:47:10
The best way to speed up UA and EAI is to get ten tech companies on board, ten companies, who between them cover almost over 90% of all Internet Users, as companies who provide hardware, operating systems, browsers and other Internet Applications, Mobile applications to over 90% users and are in a position to implement UA in their sphere at one stoke.
Sivasubramanian M
01:48:31
small steps over the next 100 years, may be?
Dennis Tan
01:48:34
This is the I-D EAI in EPP https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-04.html
Sivasubramanian M
01:49:03
You have been at UA since 2004...
Roland Sharoug
01:49:28
< Comment> Without community involvement, UASG's success is merely a pipe dream.
Ajay Data (अजय)
01:50:52
@roland - you are absolutely right. Thats why we always request more and more people to join and contribute. You are welcome too.
Ajay Data (अजय)
01:51:25
@siva - UASG started in 2015 - not 2004
Pavanaja (India UASG)
01:51:45
<Comment> There should be many outreach programs appraising the community & stakeholders to increase awareness of UA
Roland Sharoug
01:52:41
@ajay <Comment>you , stated that UASG is a community group that selects leaders in your opening comments. When I become part of UASG four years back, I discovered that we, the community members of UA, had say about who was chosen as a leader. But now not any more, now people self-nominated instead of nomination from community and the community was not asked for their say; instead, they were simply declared as chair and vice chair by UA secretariat.
Olof Nordling (a friend from ICANN past)
01:52:48
<COMMENT> Governments have an important tool in their public procurement activities - proven useful in acceptance of IPv6 and should be equally useful to promote UA <COMMENT>
Harald Alvestrand
01:55:16
Every large company has an internationalization team. Have we found them when searching for contacts?
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:58:30
The UA Program started reaching out to the tech. Companies after identifying the gaps, for example recently there was engagement with Apple, Mozilla, ..etc
Roland Sharoug
01:58:57
<Comment> Chair UASG, stated that UASG is a community group that selects leaders in his opening comments. When I become part of UASG four years back, I discovered that we, the community members of UA, had say about who was chosen as a leader. But now not any more, now people self-nominated instead, they were simply declared as chair and vice chair by UA secretariat. @dennis your comment please?
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
01:59:12
Usually the concerned staff are part of Internationalization/or localization teams
Roberto Gaetano
02:00:52
I think that one thing is to get individual developers who work for big companies interested, a completely different thing is to get UA in the strategic plans of those companies
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:01:04
Sorry I need to leave now to join another meeting
Dennis Tan
02:01:07
@Roland, good question. But the UASG secretariat is best suited to answer the question.
Marc Blanchet
02:01:54
governments role: it depends on the country. For some countries, gov have a big impact on choosing/mandating technology. For some countries, gov have much less impact.
Sivasubramanian M
02:02:57
@ajay... I meant the first signs of UA --- felt by .info if I am not wrong.
Sivasubramanian M
02:03:40
... I didn't say that UA working group was started in 2004
Roland Sharoug
02:04:24
@dennis Thank you, but I have yet to receive a response from the secretariat or the leadership.
Roland Sharoug
02:04:55
<My Question>, if UASG is still community-driven, why was the community opinion not sought on discuss list before the leadership announcement freshly? Why community was not asked to nominate as happened in past all elections? Why was there no community voting, despite the fact that there were three vice chair nominations? Why leadership was merely declared as chair and vice chair by UA secretariat without community comments?
Maxim Alzoba
02:05:23
+1
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
02:06:11
Thank you for the question @Roland please DM your email
Roland Sharoug
02:07:41
Charter is not followed this time Ajay. Charter say community will nominate not self nomination.
Maxim Alzoba
02:07:56
Thanks all!
Roland Sharoug
02:08:21
Sorry, but UASG is now operating in utter isolation, with no community input or choices, so without community involvement, UASG's success is merely a pipe dream.
Tripti Sinha त्रिप्ति सिन्हा
02:08:48
Thank you all!
Andrey Vorobyev (.ru)
02:08:59
Thank you!
Ajay Data (अजय)
02:09:01
@roland - happy to talk to you more.. please write to me on ajay@data.in or info@uasg.tech . thanks.
Rajiv Kumar NIXI India
02:09:17
Thank you all
Jothan Frakes
02:09:19
Nice updates, good progress being made. Hard work, for sure.
Satish Babu (UASG-Tech WG)
02:09:30
Thank you, all!
SARIKA GULYANI
02:09:35
Thank you all
Vadim Mikhaylov (.RU/.РФ)
02:09:36
Thank you for very interesting review of UA problem! Many thanks for panelists for discussion
Lito Ibarra
02:09:37
Thank you everyone
avri doria
02:09:39
Thanks for the session. Bye.
Mohamed Elbashir (ICANN Org.)
02:09:41
Thank you everyone, please join UA-Discuss mailing list : ua-discuss@icann.org
Satish Babu (UASG-Tech WG)
02:09:44
Thansk Maria!
Maarten Botterman
02:09:48
Thanks for all you do. appreciate the good questions and measuring. Important in moving forward
Dave Kissoondoyal - ALAC
02:09:48
Thanks and bye to all
Luna Madi
02:09:51
Thank you!
Louis Houle
02:09:52
Merci
Joan Katambi
02:09:54
Thanks
Edmon Chung
02:09:55
thx bye
Yaovi Atohoun - ICANN Org
02:09:56
bye
Raitme Citterio
02:09:57
thanks