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051040040 RPMs in all gTLDS PDP WG - Shared screen with speaker view
Julie Bisland
29:38
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Ariel Liang
30:03
Sunrise Rec 2
Ariel Liang
32:46
Hand up
Jeffrey Neuman
34:00
Perhaps inserting in parenthesis what Spec 13 and Spec 9 are?
Julie Hedlund
34:12
See the document at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12w5W2bQcviAqLwoDVB0vVK0n7SKj3fzP48NQyEW-1Q4/edit?usp=sharing
Jeffrey Neuman
34:19
To avoid any confusion later on
Jeffrey Neuman
35:48
The Specs actually have titles
Jeffrey Neuman
36:00
9 is the "Registry Code of Conduct"
Ariel Liang
36:32
I believe we actually have included footnote about Spec 13 and Spec 9 in another recommendation that shows earlier in the list, but we can make reference to that
Jeffrey Neuman
36:39
Spec 13 is ".BRAND TLD PROVISIONS"
Kathryn Kleiman
45:06
Tx you!
Jeffrey Neuman
46:58
I couldn't tell, but is the footnote explaining what the Specs are with the first time those Specs are mentioned in the text?
Julie Hedlund
47:25
@Jeff: Yes, that’s correct.
Jeffrey Neuman
47:41
Great
Julie Hedlund
47:58
So that footnote appears before the second mention of those Specs. We will reference back to it as it will already have been seen.
Julie Hedlund
49:22
This is the document we are viewing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y1MOiUU4G4_mzbte75RGXp22JT13k0Sym4OgwpCLAGk/edit?usp=sharing
Kathryn Kleiman
55:07
How long ago!
Ariel Liang
55:32
Hand up
Philip Corwin
57:45
My understanding is that the small team is discussing something related to Sunrise Rec #2, not to PDDRP
Julie Hedlund
57:57
@Phil: That is correct.
Paul Tattersfield
58:24
AOB question - We may have a solution for ALP in the small group do we still have more time to bring this forward?
Susan.Payne
59:37
apologies for being late - overrunning meeting
Paul Tattersfield
01:00:55
It does
Mary Wong
01:01:12
The staff understanding is that the group discussing the ALP has not reached an agreement.
Paul Tattersfield
01:02:42
We have new language to share later today
Paul Tattersfield
01:03:03
We have the same issue on the ALP team
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:11
I think even the text with notes “we more or less think this, but some think that and that”
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:14
will help
Paul Tattersfield
01:03:45
We have a majority and one conern
Paul Tattersfield
01:04:02
but we have new altertive language
Julie Hedlund
01:04:03
@Paul T: Staff has not seen agreement on text to bring to the WG. We have seen only a suggestion from one person on the team.
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:04:03
That person is me, no problem identifying
Paul Tattersfield
01:04:26
@Julie we have new langauge we've not shared yet
Susan.Payne
01:04:55
@PaulT I'm not sure that I agree with your categorisation re ALP. if you haven't shared new language with the small group yet then how can you know what level of support it has
Julie Hedlund
01:05:01
@Paul T: Will that be shared with the Small Team and also will the team be asked to support or not?
Susan.Payne
01:06:11
and the earlier proposal floated in the small team on the ALP does not address the issue to be fixed - as those who dealt with ALPs in the last round have now also confirmed
Kathryn Kleiman
01:06:29
Agree on the 24 hour notice!
Paul McGrady
01:06:37
Thanks Brian. Thanks Kathy. Thanks Phil. This is all very helpful.
Paul Tattersfield
01:06:39
@JUlie will share later today - There was a lot of background material and prior discussion
Paul Tattersfield
01:06:53
Yes it does thanks
Paul Tattersfield
01:07:48
TWill bring something forward before the next call
Julie Hedlund
01:07:57
hand up
Julie Hedlund
01:10:37
Not a recommendation
Julie Hedlund
01:10:54
There was a question and the public comments were not definitive
Julie Hedlund
01:11:14
hand up
Julie Hedlund
01:12:40
It was on Sunrise Questions #3-#5
Kathryn Kleiman
01:13:44
Agreed - Paul T has been working hard to find some solutions - based on comments.
Maxim Alzoba
01:14:31
we do have
Susan.Payne
01:14:58
well we may have Maxim but we aren't getting any recommendations from them in 4+ years
Mary Wong
01:16:01
@Paul T, staff has provided the ICANN org document that outlines the process and requirements for ALP approval. We are not aware that the small team has discussed the document.
Paul Tattersfield
01:17:44
@Mary haev't brought it forward yet been going through everything over the last couple of days
Susan.Payne
01:18:26
@Maxim, I totally understand that. What I said is that we haven't seen any concrete proposals for how to address the problems from those who encountered them
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:58
@Susan, I delivered this information few times
Maxim Alzoba
01:19:13
CORE is not an anecdotal info , it is the only source of info here
Maxim Alzoba
01:19:30
it is 100% of registries participated in ALP
Susan.Payne
01:20:08
but Maxim what is the fix? "it takes too long" doesn't move us forward. I'm happy if you can come up with a solution
Maxim Alzoba
01:20:53
ICANN should not repeat the same questions in the process without substantial changes to the ALP (the questions were asked in circles)
Maxim Alzoba
01:21:59
old hand
Julie Hedlund
01:22:11
@Kathy: There was suggested text from Paul T, but it was not agreed on by the Small Team.
Mary Wong
01:22:14
If the agreed problem is ICANN org’s process of engagement with a registry operator on the ALP (which is not a mandatory RPM), there may also be a question about whether this is within scope for this PDP.
Julie Hedlund
01:24:02
@Kathy: The WG did not agree on a recommendation, only to put out questions. The Small Team also has not agreed on recommendation text.
Kathryn Kleiman
01:25:41
Again: I've seen a lot of work from WG members on this issue … not sure we are in the starting blocks.
Julie Hedlund
01:27:03
hand up
David McAuley (Verisign)
01:28:15
Thanks Brian, staff, and all
Julie Bisland
01:28:16
Next call: Thursday, 17 September 2020 at 17:00 UTC for 90 minutes
Maxim Alzoba
01:28:23
bye all