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051040043 - EPDP-Phase 2A Team Call - Shared screen with speaker view
Terri Agnew
35:09
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Terri Agnew
39:46
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Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
40:25
Resend to panelists and attendees: Did we not agree to not only talk about the risk for registrars, but for all parties involved in the processing of data?
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
42:28
Admin should be remove as we killed the Admin-C in phase 1
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
42:38
Other than that, I am good with the way the questions re put.
Berry Cobb
48:42
Just to note, Becky does not see the chat here. It may be best to raise your hand and make your comments verbally.
stephanieeperrin
49:38
Thanks Berry!
margiemilam
49:57
+1 Laureen
Laureen Kapin
55:39
Would prefer to leave the concept of testing the clarity of the disclosures -- this is the advice provided by B&B.
Melina Stroungi (GAC)
01:01:11
agree with Thomas, consent is another story and is linked to personal data
stephanieeperrin
01:02:00
+1 Matt. Reputational risk should not be discounted as “de minims” regardless of how you spell it
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:04:03
Tongue in cheek alert: Reputational risk assumes there is any reputation left in this area :-)
stephanieeperrin
01:04:48
Fair point. No point in digging one’s own grave though.
stephanieeperrin
01:06:10
Hello, my hand is up
Laureen Kapin
01:06:32
Just to highlight that this advice is intended to guide our policy efforts and this effort will be moot if we don't actually get these questions out pronto.
stephanieeperrin
01:07:55
Please can I get in the queue?
Berry Cobb
01:08:47
Note, my edits are mostly visual or to act as pointers. Staff is taking accurate notes in background and will work with Becky to implement the feedback received here.
Matthew Crossman
01:08:58
Perhaps we just agree that we have a fast follow question to B&B once we've agreed on feasible measures? E.g., we received your advice, have debated these measures, and now we've agreed these are the feasible safeguards, does this change your initial analysis of the risk
Jan Janssen
01:10:04
Thank you Berry!
stephanieeperrin
01:13:58
I prefer the term legal attestation, because that is what you are looking for if you are the registrar
stephanieeperrin
01:14:16
Response is just too wishy washy
stephanieeperrin
01:14:24
(Well known legal term)
Berry Cobb
01:15:00
https://docs.google.com/document/d/156jajwvAkl1l5VsdWXpznrghkKyMUD2bhKkS20X7Xrg/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:21:25
maybe adding the word "analysis" could do the job
vgreimann
01:30:04
Maybe this is one for the evolution process?
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:30:33
Ok Margie I agree
Laureen Kapin
01:31:01
+1 Margie -- need to get these ?s out.
stephanieeperrin
01:36:23
This is a harmonized policy, GDPR is not the only law we care about
vgreimann
01:37:38
Ok, but allows is still good enough for me
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:39:13
@Margie would you like to re write the data
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:39:39
@ Melina sounds good
vgreimann
01:43:53
How does the address check protect EU citizens living abroad?
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:45:31
the ask is about it best effort determination
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:46:07
the ask is about a best effort determination
stephanieeperrin
01:46:27
We already decided that policy question in phase one. You cannot now turn it into a legal risk question and re-argue it.
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:47:41
@Stephanie this is not about geographic distinction
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:48:03
Ok agree
margiemilam
01:51:03
yes
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
01:51:14
yes
vgreimann
01:54:18
sure
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:55:46
Margie, I do not understand your point.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:56:23
How does a draft regulation shed a different light on the application of the legal basis in Art 6?
margiemilam
01:57:08
@Thomas - Assuming the adoption & implementation of NIS2 by member states
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:57:10
If there were a new legal obligation, that would be the basis for processing, but nothing more. What am I missing?
margiemilam
01:57:45
It would give the basis for disclosure as well
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:58:28
If a new law did require disclosure, yes.
Thomas Rickert (ISPCP)
01:59:05
But I thought I had heard you speak about Art 6 I b, c and f and that they would need to be seen in a different light.
Melina Stroungi (GAC)
02:02:06
thank you everyone!
Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC)
02:02:09
Thank you all and bye for now