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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team
Steve Chan
17:16
So, what did you make/are you eating now Jeff?
Jeff Neuman
17:37
Chicken with Broccoli, Chinese takeout style
Ariel Liang
17:44
Happy Lunar New Year!
Jeff Neuman
17:53
One of the dishes I have now mastered
Maxim Alzoba
17:58
live and prosper!
Ariel Liang
17:58
Today is when the god of wealth visits families’ homes
Ariel Liang
18:08
May your investments be bullish
Terri Agnew
18:21
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Terri Agnew
18:34
Please note: raised hand option has been adjusted to bottom tool bar/ reactions section.
Ariel Liang
19:08
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-f9Ml-z9LcxVs9WuX53kIkp29j0JLh6d/edit?ts=602aa348
Steve Chan
19:27
Mastered Jeff?! That’s quite a claim :)
Maxim Alzoba
20:25
chicken broccoli masters secret group
Jeff Neuman
21:18
I do need a better wok though if anyone has any recommendations on a good steel one that holds up after many uses.
Maxim Alzoba
21:51
they will be same but separated
Maxim Alzoba
23:32
usually it is a question, and then answer
Maxim Alzoba
23:41
and implementation is up to ICANN
Ariel Liang
26:01
I believe the intent is to ask about application fee
Jeff Neuman
26:46
Ariel, I think both need to be asked, right?
Ariel Liang
27:14
If the DT believes both should be asked, we can clarify that in the question
Jeff Neuman
27:52
If it is one agreement, there needs to be a decision as to whether each variant is a "registration" and whether each has a separate registration fee and how the variants count towards the 50,000 name fixed fee
Maxim Alzoba
28:26
separate agreements, and fees separated
Maxim Alzoba
28:48
multiple TLDs are not single
Jeff Neuman
29:05
Sarmad what would the repurcussions be of calling it one tLD other than Fees and Agreement?
Maxim Alzoba
29:44
they will die the same time
Sarmad Hussain
31:12
The staff recommendation was looking at the strings delegated in the root zone.
Jeff Neuman
31:16
SubPro adopted same entity rule, but did not opine on the application process, whether it would be one agreement, one agreement with separate annexes, or separate registry agreements.
Maxim Alzoba
31:33
but it was discussed there
Maxim Alzoba
31:50
and there should be no second bite on the apple
Dennis Tan
31:51
@Jeff, agreed
Jeff Neuman
31:51
It is also did not come to a conclusion on the application fees, or annual registration fees (if any)
Maxim Alzoba
32:38
it is only logic link between strings
Ariel Liang
35:15
Staff’s understanding is that SubPro discussed this topic but reached no conclusive result/recommendation
Edmon Chung
36:21
agree with Jeff and Ariel, disagree with Maxim
Edmon Chung
38:05
agree with sarmad as well after his clarification right now
Maxim Alzoba
39:03
then it should be marked as needs to be investigated, and all consequences should be reviewed in advance
Edmon Chung
39:15
jeff's explanation reconciles with my understanding
Maxim Alzoba
39:43
this can be used as a circumvention of the whole application process
Dennis Tan
41:04
How so Maxim?
Maxim Alzoba
41:16
I will explain
Dennis Tan
41:20
thanks
Edmon Chung
42:49
the result of the EPDP would have implications to IANA yes, that should be something we should expect?
Ariel Liang
43:45
This would be a great discussion point for the EPDP deliberation ;)
Dennis Tan
43:51
Agreed
Edmon Chung
43:53
yup
Maxim Alzoba
45:21
technical, operational and legal consequences
Maxim Alzoba
45:41
including policy
Maxim Alzoba
46:10
it is called circumvention of the application process
Maxim Alzoba
46:37
to avoid that it should be one of the options in the application process
Jeff Neuman
47:05
@Maxim - some may call it that...but others may just create an efficient fast IDN Variant Track if you already have a TLD.
Jeff Neuman
47:12
But all of this is for the PDP to consider
Maxim Alzoba
47:51
anyway, this has to be investigated
Edmon Chung
50:10
a minor note, i am not sure "IDL" was defined somewhere before this section (i might have missed it)
Jeff Neuman
51:26
Was helping you get there more quickly :)
Dennis Tan
51:40
:)
Jeff Neuman
52:05
@Maxim - yep, I think we are all saying same thing
Maxim Alzoba
52:40
the icon for rise hand is in the wrong place, hidden
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:44
old
Maxim Alzoba
01:05:02
current standards do not allow that
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:40
now it is about fees
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:59
registry and registrar fees
Edmon Chung
01:07:38
fine with consolidating it
Ariel Liang
01:07:40
Hand up
Edmon Chung
01:08:12
i think should keep here
Edmon Chung
01:08:22
but it depends on the answer of the harmonization question
Edmon Chung
01:09:08
but without answering the one RA we cant answer this question
Maxim Alzoba
01:11:31
tech, operational and legal
Maxim Alzoba
01:11:42
new hand
Edmon Chung
01:13:53
agree with dennis
Ariel Liang
01:15:58
CPH team is asked to suggest items from the implementation guidelines v4.0 and suggest them for policy discussion, so the “same entity” item can be a potential candidate for removal, if the CPH team deems appropriate
Ariel Liang
01:16:23
*suggest items for removal
Terri Agnew
01:17:02
Next meeting: The IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting team Group call is scheduled on Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 18:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
Sarmad Hussain
01:18:18
Need to drop for another meeting.
Sarmad Hussain
01:18:21
Thanks
Maxim Alzoba
01:18:30
thanks all
Maxim Alzoba
01:19:24
ok, please
Ariel Liang
01:19:31
RrSG Chair has responded and will initiate the team soon, based on the email
Ariel Liang
01:19:42
Thanks all
Edmon Chung
01:19:44
thx bye