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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team
Julie Bisland
44:24
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en.
Ariel Liang
45:48
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-f9Ml-z9LcxVs9WuX53kIkp29j0JLh6d/edit
Maxim Alzoba
47:03
hello all
Maxim Alzoba
50:16
if you do not have sunrise it will not be equal
Maxim Alzoba
53:11
we might form the question of what to do in such situation?
Maxim Alzoba
53:44
they do not have been on have same limited periods
Jeffrey Neuman
54:04
It sort of relates to how Variant TLDs are treated. Do they have 1 contract or is each variant considered its own TLD
Donna Austin
54:42
I agree Jeff.
Jeffrey Neuman
55:30
@maxim - there is also the issue, if one TLD qualifies as a community, does each variant have to be treated as part of the community TLD?
Maxim Alzoba
56:11
it is more like same treatment
Maxim Alzoba
56:18
than the restriction
Jeffrey Neuman
56:51
Well I think we state that it is possible to have different treatment for variants, but I think that may need to be limited for community TLDs
Jeffrey Neuman
57:02
And perhaps Category 1 TLDs
Donna Austin
57:21
So the EPDP needs to answer the fundamental questions first and then assess the impact on other processes?
Ariel Liang
58:30
I think Maxim is referring to the question about domain name life cycle? There are some questions to that effect in Section F, iirc
Maxim Alzoba
59:34
@Ariel, the life cycle is in the General Availability. I am speaking about registration periods, like Sunrise, LRPs too
Ariel Liang
59:58
Yes, registration includes those cases, Sunrise, LRPs, etc.
Maxim Alzoba
01:00:12
for example Sunrise has own methods of dealing with wrong registration s
Jeffrey Neuman
01:00:25
It does get real tricky because if 2 TLDs are variants, but they mean different things, then treating both as community TLDs for the same community may not be appropriate, right?
Ariel Liang
01:01:21
@Maxim - welcome your input to F7 on page 13 as we incorporated some of your suggestions to expand on the life cycle question
Donna Austin
01:01:52
Agree Jeff.
Donna Austin
01:02:56
Agree Maxim.
Maxim Alzoba
01:03:30
@Ariel, it is important, I agree, that the life cycle is mentioned
Donna Austin
01:05:22
Consistency in terminology is important.
Donna Austin
01:05:59
Yeah, but we're just working out what the questions are Maxim, not the policy so we can't presuppose anything.
Maxim Alzoba
01:06:53
we might ask - do we need this in full or partially?
Maxim Alzoba
01:07:05
or not at all
Sarmad Hussain
01:07:14
Blocked may also be a new state for variant TLD - based on RZ-LGR calculation (in addition to withheld-same-entifity).
Maxim Alzoba
01:09:32
pti is free to write things there on their site
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:02
implement Ed in the clear manner
Maxim Alzoba
01:16:51
operational part needs to start after this EPDP's products are approved by the board
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:41
another pdp to update a pdp
Maxim Alzoba
01:20:40
it is not a proper policy text yet
Jeffrey Neuman
01:21:45
I think they can be yes
Jeffrey Neuman
01:22:01
ccs do not have to sign up to anything
Donna Austin
01:23:42
they're not bound by contract so can ICANN enforce requirements on ccTLDs?
Dennis Tan
01:24:08
I think that’s the case , except for IDN ccTLDs
Dennis Tan
01:24:15
(I think)
Edmon Chung
01:24:28
it is though, when IDN ccTLDs request for the IDN ccTLD
Edmon Chung
01:25:55
when an IDN ccTLD applies for the IDN ccTLD it is required to accept and state that it complies
Donna Austin
01:25:55
well they have no mechanism to enforce the policies, ie no contract
Edmon Chung
01:26:13
and will comply
Edmon Chung
01:26:53
well... it depends how you see it... the "application" could be considered a 'contract"
Maxim Alzoba
01:26:54
after delegation they do not need to care, only very few cctld s have contract ts with ICANN (mostly for tax or political reasons)
Edmon Chung
01:27:10
i am not a lawyer but the application process should have formed a "contract"
Maxim Alzoba
01:27:31
no, cctld is an extension of the jurisdiction sovereignty
Maxim Alzoba
01:27:51
a small non for profit from California can not punish governments
Maxim Alzoba
01:28:48
a liaison from ccnso would be enough
Jeffrey Neuman
01:29:26
Since this has to do with an Application, it is already handled by SubPro
Maxim Alzoba
01:31:40
bad news for clingon TLDs :)
Maxim Alzoba
01:32:40
other than the same entity
Maxim Alzoba
01:34:53
I suggest we stop now
Maxim Alzoba
01:35:03
thanks all
Maxim Alzoba
01:35:56
midday Europe - might be ok
Jeffrey Neuman
01:36:10
the later the better.
Donna Austin
01:36:20
I can't do the conversion in my head. do you have those available Ariel?
Ariel Liang
01:36:21
We don’t have meeting in ICANN70
Maxim Alzoba
01:36:38
preparation week too
Jeffrey Neuman
01:36:44
that is 6 or 7 am east coast US time?
Maxim Alzoba
01:36:48
ok
Maxim Alzoba
01:37:13
usually 7 is not as bad as 6
Jeffrey Neuman
01:37:14
What time is it for us Ariel?
Maxim Alzoba
01:37:36
let it be reasonable for LA
Edmon Chung
01:37:37
i can do later actually
Edmon Chung
01:37:56
might pref a bit later like 1400 UTC
Edmon Chung
01:38:17
but 1200/1300 UTC ok
Edmon Chung
01:38:22
i c ok
Maxim Alzoba
01:38:28
doodle poll FTW
Julie Bisland
01:38:31
12:00 UTC will be 5am/PT
Jeffrey Neuman
01:38:37
12 utc
Edmon Chung
01:38:37
1200 UTC?
Donna Austin
01:38:40
I think Edmon's contribution is probably more important than mine
Maxim Alzoba
01:39:14
let it be 12utc
Maxim Alzoba
01:39:46
24th ?
Ariel Liang
01:40:35
The next meeting will be 16 March, and then 30 March after ICANN70
Maxim Alzoba
01:40:35
bye all, I have to drop
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
01:41:05
Current time of meeting has been 5am Oz time so 12 UTC might be better
Edmon Chung
01:41:30
should go over them
Donna Austin
01:42:09
Thanks Dennis, all
Edmon Chung
01:42:11
thx bye