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IDNs EPDP Charter Drafting Team - Shared screen with speaker view
Maxim Alzoba
39:40
hello all
Jeff Neuman
40:01
Hi Maxim - with you now here we can start :)
Maxim Alzoba
40:14
good
Jeff Neuman
44:47
The only thing I would suggest is on d3 where we should provide a proper definition of "singleton TLD".
Jeff Neuman
45:25
When an IDN expert like Edmon asks what the term means, then non-experts like me need that definition as well
Maxim Alzoba
48:36
new hand
Edmon Chung
49:07
since there is already an explantion, suggest we strike out the word "singleton" to avoid creating new terminology
Ariel Liang
49:29
Applied the redline. Thanks Edmon
Dennis Tan
49:30
Noted
Jeff Neuman
54:40
Maxim - I think we are delving into substance, but we are just working on the charter
Maxim Alzoba
55:09
Jeff, it is the troubled item, the most troubled
Jeff Neuman
55:41
@Maxim - I don't disagree with you. But we are not the PDP Working Group.
Maxim Alzoba
56:05
questions should be clear
Edmon Chung
58:56
@jeff, is there need to add description here to effect what you just said?
Jeff Neuman
59:07
Yes, I think so
Jeff Neuman
59:16
There may be other items as well that are in this category
Edmon Chung
59:26
ok
Jeff Neuman
59:29
where operationally there should be one solution that works for both.
Dennis Tan
59:35
Agreed
Jeff Neuman
59:40
Policies can be different, but operations should be standardized
Maxim Alzoba
01:00:07
at least me might need to check
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:01:31
How does the requirement work in practice? Are we talking about the Sub Pro IRT?
Maxim Alzoba
01:02:04
Registry Registration Data Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy
Edmon Chung
01:02:18
just say should "coordinate with", no need to say "defer to"?
Dennis Tan
01:02:27
I like that Edmon
Jeff Neuman
01:02:58
Agree with Edmon
Edmon Chung
01:04:00
was that sentence taken from somewhere/
Dennis Tan
01:04:06
I think so
Ariel Liang
01:04:11
It was taken from staff paper
Ariel Liang
01:04:24
Staff paper offers 4 options but recommended ROID
Jeff Neuman
01:04:26
Ah. Yes, is that term defined in the Staff Paper
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:05:42
Variant domains at the second or top level?
Jeff Neuman
01:05:52
second level
Ariel Liang
01:07:28
This question is actually covered in F1 and F7 in the next section
Maxim Alzoba
01:07:29
also different epp commands
Maxim Alzoba
01:07:40
for different domains
Maxim Alzoba
01:07:59
and different RDAp whois
Maxim Alzoba
01:08:11
cctlds can do whatever they eant
Dennis Tan
01:08:23
@Ariel, but F1 talks about TLD, not SLD, right?
Ariel Liang
01:08:39
I think F7 is covering the SLD. We will double check
Jeff Neuman
01:08:46
So bottom line is yes this involves policy. But if covered in Section F, that is good
Maxim Alzoba
01:09:26
requirement to change all backends for sake of very few beneficiaries is not financially feasible
Maxim Alzoba
01:09:33
and all standards
Ariel Liang
01:09:37
F7 is about whether each variant registration should be considered to have independent domain lifecycle, but we can include Edmon’s language in F7
Edmon Chung
01:09:44
agree with jeff
Edmon Chung
01:10:00
and ariel
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:10:25
important distinction Dennis
Edmon Chung
01:10:26
but it is a different question than whether it has independent lifecycle
Maxim Alzoba
01:10:27
roids are just unique ids of different fields
Ariel Liang
01:10:48
Yes, we will work on that after the call to include Edmon’s language in section F
Jeff Neuman
01:10:54
@Dennis - that sounds right. Lets put a pin in it to cover it
Jeff Neuman
01:14:26
If we have variants in the Latin Script and there is a same entity requirement, we are going to have a mess between languages, right
Edmon Chung
01:15:01
i understand "not conflicting" to have a nuance and thus different than "the same"... but this is substance we should discuss in the actual WG
Steve Chan
01:16:17
The phrase the staff paper uses is “mutually coherent”, which I think is consistent with Edmon’s comment?
Jeff Neuman
01:16:53
But isn't each Registry under the Guidelines required to indicate the "Language" and the "script" and not allowed to register things outside the indicated language and script
Ariel Liang
01:16:59
Another variant across script scenario can be Chinese, Japanese, Korean, which also share similar characters
Ariel Liang
01:17:21
But seems to be for the discussion of the EPDP :)
Edmon Chung
01:17:29
"mutually coherent" is also acceptable
Maxim Alzoba
01:17:31
ok
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:18:07
we agree it's a discussion for the WG: so what's the question we need to draft to draw out the discussion?
Donna Austin, GoDaddy Registry
01:20:32
I need to step away for a few minutes
Edmon Chung
01:20:38
nothing, what prompted me to bring it up is Dennis' original explanation of the background used "the same" instead of "not conflicting", but later dennis just now clarified it already and the description in the document is correct
Jeff Neuman
01:25:07
ok, I get it now. I think we need to be clear that it within that TLD. But what if you variant TLDs....that can expand exponentially
Jeff Neuman
01:27:05
Agree
Ariel Liang
01:27:25
Hand up
Jeff Neuman
01:28:38
Graphics are always good
Jeff Neuman
01:29:52
Agree on the overlap
Maxim Alzoba
01:31:02
thanks all
Maxim Alzoba
01:32:37
have to drop
Ariel Liang
01:33:44
Thanks everyone!
Edmon Chung
01:33:46
thx all, bye
Sarmad Hussain
01:33:48
Thanks
Jeff Neuman
01:33:51
thanks
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - ICANN org
01:33:53
Thank you