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GNSO Council Policy Update - Shared screen with speaker view
David Olive ICANN Org
35:53
Welcome Everyone
Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
37:18
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en.
Maxim Alzoba
37:56
Hello all
David Olive ICANN Org
38:18
Welcome Herb. Thanks for being with us today .
Maxim Alzoba
43:32
Kudos to all participated in work of the PDPs finished, and especially to ICANN staff, without whom it would be impossible
Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
46:04
As a reminder, attendees do not have access to the chat nor to their microphones but are more than welcome to type questions and comments in the Q&A pod situated on the bottom toolbar of the Zoom room.
Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
46:49
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Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
48:42
We have to deliver our Recommendations Report to them after this next meeting
John McElwaine
54:31
When will the RPM Phase 1 Report and Recommendation be published for Public Comment?
Mary Wong
56:11
@John, Policy staff is coordinating with Board Operations and GDS staff to ensure that the timing is as optimal as possible, to enable comprehensive Board review in a practical time frame
Mary Wong
57:48
(Note that the Bylaws require the Board to meet to consider PDP recommendations as soon as feasible, and preferably not later than the second Board meeting after it receives the Recommendations Report. In practice, staff tries to coordinate the public comment proceeding to allow the Board time to discuss and review the Report and the public comments received in good time.)
Steve Chan
58:24
As Mary is noting, no date certain at this stage, but likely in the relatively near future.
Philippe Fouquart
58:37
Thanks Steve!
John McElwaine
59:58
Thanks @Mary and @Steve
Kurt Pritz
01:04:09
Hand up
Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
01:08:52
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Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
01:09:54
As a reminder, attendees do not have access to the chat nor to their microphones but are more than welcome to type questions and comments in the Q&A pod situated on the bottom toolbar of the Zoom room.
Mark Datysgeld
01:13:52
I wish attendants had access to chat. Would be much more transparent. We are part of the community just like everyone. Hopefully the org. will really look into this, as it has been saying for so long it will.
Mary Wong
01:16:08
The Board has deferred consideration of IGO Curative Rights Recs 1-4 (in its resolution of Oct 2020), in view of its current consultation with the GAC on previous IGO PDP recommendations and pending completion of the Work Track.
Steve Chan
01:16:19
Developing a work plan for the IGO Work Track is a matter of priority, so we should have a much better sense of timeline in the near future.
Caitlin Tubergen
01:26:08
@Mark - this webinar is designed for GNSO Councilors, so the Zoom is structured like a standard GNSO Council meeting. We can discuss changing this in the future if the Council would prefer.
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:26:29
I would like to see us not move to the "representative model" for every PDP. But that seems to be the direction we are heading. I think there are many benefits to an open model (or at the very least a hybrid model). We should be encouraging more participation in PDPs even if consensus is measured by representatives.
Kristian Ørmen
01:27:30
March 22
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:27:31
There seems to be the assumption that the reason previous PDPs took too long was because there were too many members. In the case of SubPro, that was not the case from my point of view.
Kurt Pritz
01:27:58
How are the decisions taken to staff a PDP by representative vs open vs something else method?
Emily Barabas
01:27:59
The ICANN70 session on the Transfer Policy PDP will take place on 22 March at 19:30 UTC
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:28:08
SubPro took too long because of the onerous charter with 40+ subjects.
Caitlin Tubergen
01:28:08
In addition, we hope all questions and comments will be reflected in the Q&A pod, which is an effort to replicate the traditional open mic session that is held at the end of the face-to-face working session, and which is usually allotted for 10 minutes.
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:28:31
Hand Up
Mark Datysgeld
01:28:47
@Caitlin thank you very much for the clarification. It is not my personal understanding that this is a normal Council meeting. It would be a good opportunity to interact with the community within this context, rather.
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:30:01
follup up Q
Greg DiBiase
01:31:33
hand up
Philippe Fouquart
01:32:03
@Mark, @Susan, thanks for this; It's a fair question to ask, and indeed as Caitlin mentioned we sort of carried over the default working method for Council. But given that this is both intended for the broder community and councilors, it's a change worthwhile considering for future succh policy updates.
Caitlin Tubergen
01:32:08
Resending to all panelists and attendees: This webinar is designed for GNSO Councilors, so the Zoom is structured like a standard GNSO Council meeting. We can discuss changing this in the future if the Council would prefer. In addition, we hope all questions and comments will be reflected in the Q&A pod, which is an effort to replicate the traditional open mic session that is held at the end of the face-to-face working session, and which is usually allotted for 10 minutes.
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:32:30
Sorry all. I wanted to put into the Q&A pod my question, but I cant
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:33:01
From my role of ALAC to the GNSO Council what @Jeff has raised is INDEED of great interest to the At-Large Community and we have made the same :observation" with some degree of concern... Note in my personal capacity I have also been involved in a goodly number of PDPs ;-)
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:33:16
SubPro had 200 and was manageable from Cheryl and my perspective
Marie Pattullo
01:33:20
If it's not a representative model (and I agree that shouldn't be the norm) the members/votes can't be measured by "representation" a there anyone volunteering is doing so in their personal (professional) capacity, not on behalf of their SG.C
Marie Pattullo
01:33:37
*SG/C
Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Org
01:33:56
PANELISTS: Please set your chat to PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES for all to be able to read your comments, thank you!
Greg DiBiase
01:34:17
ok makes sense
Maxim Alzoba
01:34:44
overpopulating the WG is a bad idea
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:35:25
Again, SubPro had 200+ members and it was not overpopulated. The amount of people was not the issue
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:35:50
Hybrid models should not be ignored as an opportunity to explore of course ...
Marie Pattullo
01:35:55
If we limit all representation to "on behalf of" a SG/C, by default we lose a lot of the reason as to why people get involved at all in PDPs. But of course it depends on the subject,
Kurt Pritz
01:36:33
I don’t necessarily agree with what Jeff said. I think each PDP should be taken on its own merits and needs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:36:47
Indeed it does @Marie, thus the at least 3 models (and variations) you could explore
Maxim Alzoba
01:36:49
@Jeff, with the active number way lower hundreds subscribed, not sure
Maxim Alzoba
01:38:14
@Mary, nobody prevents people to join the groups backing up the work
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:38:54
@Maxim - we do not need all representative models.
Maxim Alzoba
01:39:34
@Jeff, it is up to the Council
Marie Pattullo
01:40:01
As said, subject-dependent. But closing to reps only = closed shop IMO.
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:40:06
@Kurt - Sure each PDP should have its own merits. But every PDP and ePDP that has been launched in last couple of years has been representative. (ePDP Phase 1, 2, 2A; IGO Curative Rights Work Track, now Transfers)
Maxim Alzoba
01:40:43
@Jeff, may be due to a huge time taken by the Open groups
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:40:45
@Maxim - of course its up to the Council. But one can disagree with the Council, right
Maxim Alzoba
01:41:04
@Jeff, it is your right
Ariel Liang
01:43:04
This is the workplan to the IDN EPDP Drafting Team: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mD0soQAd-OfPQCiY5aHls3HVltq0CtSu8aAlZ5zQlAk/edit#gid=0
Jeff Neuman (GNSO Liaison to the GAC)
01:43:51
I think we are scheduled to go to the top of the hour if there are any questions
Marie Pattullo
01:44:02
+1, Jeff
Tatiana Tropina
01:44:04
Yes I think we have to clarify on the form indeed. I would say, we better think about this.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:44:27
Bye for now...
Kristian Ørmen
01:44:33
Thanks you
Mark Datysgeld
01:44:47
Thank you all, great update.
Marie Pattullo
01:44:48
Not here until 21 UTC??
Juan Manuel Rojas
01:44:53
Thank you all
Maxim Alzoba
01:45:00
thanks all
David Olive ICANN Org
01:45:02
Thanks All
Pam Little
01:45:02
Thank you all