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051040040 New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call - Shared screen with speaker view
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
26:10
hopefully a few more will trickle in
Terri Agnew
26:49
Please review ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
27:17
We did also receive 5 (I believe Terri said) apologies
Steve Chan
29:12
Contractual Compliance comments here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PglquKDd8amHiqI6Wfko0Plb80RPpbEjTMS_F-5t4sU/edit#gid=2018104401
Justine Chew
30:51
We have 2 back-to-back calls next week at 20:00 UTC on Monday and Tuesday?
Jim Prendergast
31:35
ok thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
31:51
Staff will send out a calendar update on that then
Rubens Kuhl
34:30
Having a breach notice published by ICANN is a penalty.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
35:18
noted @Rubens
Justine Chew
35:28
Interesting suggestion but what can we feasibly do at this stage?
Paul McGrady
39:56
I kinda feel like we are meddling in things that are bigger than this PDP.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
44:12
These parameters beyond the current dashboard material but added to the revcommendation on type of parameter @Christine?
Justine Chew
48:34
Happy to provide input to revised recommendation / IG
Laxmi Prasad Yadav
51:41
Hello everyone.Extremely sorry for delay
Justine Chew
51:56
I check the ICANN Org dashboard from time to time - I haven't seen the element of standards and thresholds applied by CC in assessing / processing complaints yet.
Steve Chan
53:17
Google doc here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mkfwWZtyGAOdIbN3LsgNtDnVs6ehPmgrONzl85gWD2I/edit#gid=1091535370
Jim Prendergast
01:02:14
but there are other changes we have proposed for .brands, correct? beyond the 100 domains?
Paul McGrady
01:04:16
Spec 13 registries are exempt from the Code of Conduct.
Paul McGrady
01:04:45
They can designate up to 3 registrars.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:08:32
if the support is still not there well... … … ….
Rubens Kuhl
01:11:42
.jjn
Paul McGrady
01:12:24
Agree Jeff.
Paul McGrady
01:12:35
Late in the game to be excluding folks from processes.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:12:55
I am sure more than @Paul is listening ;-)
Steve Chan
01:12:58
Doc here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YJJDm9mdmSssXav1P08Uhw6Ofyp0KtfTX8QSRChrVNI/edit#gid=612369294
Rubens Kuhl
01:13:41
They are complicated, trust me
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:16:58
cross varient
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:17:21
variant sorry always terrible at spelling
Rubens Kuhl
01:17:55
It sounds like we already accepted the commenter suggestions.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:18:27
rubens do we have the skill set to even discuss meaningfully??
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:18:40
where *we* is thw WG
Paul McGrady
01:19:04
@Rubens, do you think we should accept this comment?
Rubens Kuhl
01:19:07
The one on the screen only mentions one thing not adopted which is translation.
Rubens Kuhl
01:19:27
@Paul, I believe that besides language, we already did.
Paul McGrady
01:19:45
Thanks Rubens.
Rubens Kuhl
01:23:27
I think we let registries choose if they include IDN tables that if don't approved, registry prefers not to have to the TLD.
Rubens Kuhl
01:23:58
Very similar to a registry service.
Steve Chan
01:24:38
I think it’s 39.5, but hopefully I’m understanding the right connection.
Rubens Kuhl
01:29:05
In 2012 there were no RZ-LGRs set at the time, and that didn't prevent the evaluation.
Justine Chew
01:29:29
So how was evaluation done in 2012+?
Paul McGrady
01:29:31
We discussed this at some length didn't we? I understand ICANN Board's desire for efficiency, but weren't we balancing out others who may be caught up in contention sets or want to file objections?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:29:42
indeed we did @Paul
Rubens Kuhl
01:31:50
They are a good thing to have, and the WG deferred to RZ-LGRs wherever they apply. But when they are not there, no reason to stop evaluation.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:32:22
That was the rationale indeed #Rubens a to the extent possible
Steve Chan
01:32:34
FWIW, for a string in a script that is not part of the RZ-LGR, there is no guarantee it will ever be valid
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:33:08
pretty edge IMO
Karen Lentz
01:33:34
There are 18 scripts in RZ-LGR now
Paul McGrady
01:33:41
More The Edge than U2. Sorry, its late
Jim Prendergast
01:34:28
I kind of defer to the subject matter experts on this as its a specialized subject matter beyond my area of focus.
Rubens Kuhl
01:34:42
Yes, it sounds pretty much.
Justine Chew
01:34:52
So the bottom line is, if RZ-LGRs exists for a script, that applies; if one does not exists then a set of evaluation criteria is established? By whom?
Rubens Kuhl
01:36:15
We have a foot-note in the report that variants of current gTLDs are not covered.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:37:42
Also out of our control anyway
Rubens Kuhl
01:37:59
Similar to name collisions: there is a framework, if that is replaced, then it's replaced.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:40:08
Purpose of that
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:41:06
To be a meaningful measure then staff commitment comparison to other non IDNs need to be looked at as well NEW and yes Implementation
Paul McGrady
01:43:34
fair enough
Rubens Kuhl
01:44:57
We covered those.
Rubens Kuhl
01:45:12
We simply didn't agree with ICANN recs.
Rubens Kuhl
01:45:29
But all of them were on the table.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:45:45
Some words for the comments need to be added
Steve Chan
01:47:17
Correct
Steve Chan
01:47:29
Not correct :)
Paul McGrady
01:47:41
Is it a PDP or and EPDP
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:48:16
scoping for the launch the when is TBD
Paul McGrady
01:49:39
What are you suggesting Jeff? That our work needs to be done before the ePDP launches? Or that the ePDP's work needs to be done before the next Round kicks off?
Jim Prendergast
01:49:52
Jeff - you are not asking for the answer to that in the next 5 minutes, are you? That's a pretty heafty question.
Rubens Kuhl
01:50:34
My take is similar to name collisions: there is a framework, if that is replaced, then it's replaced.
Justine Chew
01:51:58
@Jeff, @Cheryl, sure I'm not saying that. I'm just asking to be alerted on what might potentially be affected by the new PDP on IDNs.
Steve Chan
01:52:04
Hand up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:52:07
YUP far better said then my response @Rubens
Paul McGrady
01:52:53
Jeff waits to the end of the call and scares us all awake. :-)
Justine Chew
01:53:42
Thank you @jeff, I guess my use of the word "conflict" worried a few people here.
Paul McGrady
01:56:42
Thanks Jeff. Thanks CLO.
Jim Prendergast
01:56:42
its not the end of this topic. its TBD....
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:56:42
Lots done today and SO thank you all!!!
Paul McGrady
01:57:08
Jeff is on fire tonight
Steve Chan
01:57:18
Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 15:00 UTC for 90 minutes
julie.hedlund
01:57:21
1500 UTC on Thursday
Steve Chan
01:57:27
Better late than never!
julie.hedlund
01:57:28
jinx