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Sue Schuler
19:48
Welcome to the meeting of the DAAR Discussion Group. Please announce your name before speaking for purposes of the transcript. Please mute your microphone when not speaking to help maintain sound quality. Thanks
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
26:18
Hi everyone! Sorry I'm late.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
26:52
I agreed with your slide suggestions, Kurt. I just didn't have time to make the change yet. :)
Maxim Alzoba
27:19
Hello all
Maxim Alzoba
27:28
sorry for being bit late
Sam Demetriou
27:56
It’s probably still worth touching on all these points in the presentation, since I don’t think the DAAR reports themselves have been updated?
Maxim Alzoba
28:37
P.s: speaking about feeds quality - we might talk to CTO about the expected standards (that access to feeds abuse reports check provided (at least yes/no, evidence if have any)
Kurt Pritz
28:37
Before the recommendations, we might want a slide to describe the changes agreed with OCTO so far:- abolishing the legacy v new distinction- the one-time comparison of restricted v open- Anything else
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
29:17
+1 to Sam’s comment… OCTO was originally going to be updating the report in January. That’s still not happened
Kurt Pritz
29:45
Slide #6, point 2 - we should identify this an an assumption we are making and it might be more sharply made as a significant shortcoming
Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin
33:49
I am late with it but could we add that DAAR include affected domains via the mosapi output? This is for the long term since some ROs would receive to much data
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
34:42
+1 Rick...we included that in the report itself.
Maxim Alzoba
34:52
we saw this
Sean Baseri - Neustar
36:25
+1 Rick
Sam Demetriou
40:04
I think that’s right, Kristine
Sam Demetriou
40:21
We reserved a good block of time on the call, but discussion definitely is preferable to presentation
Kurt Pritz
40:36
I agree with what Kristine just said except that we might not invite wordsmithing of the doc
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
40:47
@Kurt. We will NOT invite it.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
40:52
I just feel like its inevitable.
Beth Bacon
41:07
Agreed. If we can hear what folks have to say then the team will have more to work with as opposed to waiting for conversation over email post-presentation
James Galvin (Afilias)
41:54
https://docs.google.com/document/d/193S0TeGlHyaSDRTx-Y9oqTjh8AHi85Bo/edit
Kurt Pritz
44:54
I agree with removing “authority” in favor of the way Kristine has it here
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
45:01
+1
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
46:01
:-)
Sam Demetriou
47:08
Have to drop, team. Really excellent work here! Looking forward to the discussion tomorrow.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
48:37
(I dropped in a couple of minor edits to the last sentence of Finding #2)
Kurt Pritz
48:53
I think “inaccurate” is objective and “unfair” is subjective
Maxim Alzoba
49:36
I have to drop, see some of you at RPM comments call in 30 min
Kurt Pritz
49:43
“Is likely to create"
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
51:04
I’m flexible
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
51:04
All are fine.
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
51:10
will defer to you and KD
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
51:11
Sure
James Galvin (Afilias)
55:59
Sue:
James Galvin (Afilias)
56:00
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/daar-monthly-report-29feb20-en.pdf
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
58:08
@Kurt, we like the % for sure. And the Pareto is an analysis to get there. but are you advocating for listing TLDs by name?
Kurt Pritz
58:29
No naming of TLDs
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
58:56
OK, good. Yes. that makes sense.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
59:00
Beth has a hand up too.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:00:23
Will we know the relative size of the grouped TLDs?
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:00:27
I didn't think so.
Kurt Pritz
01:00:41
@Kristine, no we will not know tht
Kurt Pritz
01:00:45
*that
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:00:48
I think it's "TLDs with 80% of their names being abused"
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:00:52
or whatever.
Beth Bacon
01:01:22
That makes sense. Thanks!
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:05:02
yes rick
Kurt Pritz
01:08:13
The word “most” does not appear in Rec 3 BUT
Kurt Pritz
01:08:23
Rick has an excellent point
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:15:23
Rick are you unwilling to support going forward with suggesting Rec 3 to OCTO?
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:16:11
do we need to tie Rec 3 to Rec 4?
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:16:44
I’d feel better if we kept it open for discussion in the secondary group. I think that it’s better for the RySG as a whole
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:17:14
@Kurt, that's the intention.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:17:26
These ARE the things to explore next with OCTO
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:17:39
but they're a bigger deal so we need to review with the RySG first.
Sue Schuler
01:17:45
@David...…….please hang on. This meeting is wrapping up
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:17:46
These are not just "include in DAAR"
Sue Schuler
01:18:10
@Sophie...…….please stay on the line
Sophie Hey
01:18:23
Sure Sue!
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:18:26
It looks like there is another call right now. Sorry incoming folks!!
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:18:30
We're wrapping up,.
Sophie Hey
01:19:12
No problems Kristine :)
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:19:16
Thanks for all the great work everyone
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:19:34
i’m ok with moving it down
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:19:36
I'll send an email to the list to circle back
Beth Bacon
01:19:46
Thanks, all. My apologies, I have another meeting.
Kristine Dorrain (Amazon)
01:19:54
thanks sue!
Rick Wilhelm (Verisign)
01:20:02
thx all
Matthias Pfeifer dot.berlin
01:20:11
thx all
Maxim Alzoba
01:20:17
RPMs comments time