
49:53
Daft q: no hand up option?

50:38
Participant icon-> raise hand

50:50
Not sure the webinar format has it

51:06
Hello all.

51:17
I have a box that says Raise Hand

51:32
I see raise hand button at the bottom of participants list, Marie

51:53
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51:55
Ah! Was in "attendees" tab. Sorry. Not enough coffee yet.

52:01
Same for the "hand", here. (but we can't post Questions)

52:15
(I think)

52:23
I am here

52:36
Panelists can reply to Q + A

52:40
Click the panellists tab at the top. Philippe.

52:40
but we can’t ask questions

52:47
reply but not post, can we?

52:51
Yes

52:57
we’re in webinar mode

53:07
thanks

54:22
@carlton presence noted, thank you!

54:45
@Nathalie, much obliged

58:00
@staff Proxy incoming for Farrell we also cannot contact him, I will take his proxy, Stephanie filing it now.

01:00:17
Noted, @james. This will only count if we receive it ahead of the vote start.

01:00:37
Yup rushing it in now =)

01:00:53
The GAC keeps bringing up its disappointment that SubPro referred DNS Abuse to the Council. Likely to be in Communique. Would love to hear Council's thoughts on this.

01:01:36
Welcome Goran and all!

01:02:36
Not yet

01:03:17
Here is the Resolved clause:

01:03:19
I will hand it to you Pam after the vote. My mistake.

01:04:28
Proxy form just came in now.

01:04:58
Thanks Nathalie

01:05:00
Ah well =) An attempt was made.

01:05:12
Sorry James!

01:10:12
Reminder to all to please type your questions in the Q&A box to the left of this chat.

01:16:42
You can find the full Project Package of the EPDP-P2 that accompanied the PCR which provides details of the project status/health, accomplishments and project plan. This is produced monthly. https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2020-June/023745.html

01:32:45
My concerns match with Tatiana

01:32:50
Resolved:The GNSO Council hereby requests the preparation of a Preliminary Issue Report, for delivery as expeditiously as possible, on the issues identified in the Transfer Policy Initial Scoping Paper, to assist in determining whether a PDP or series of PDPs should be initiated regarding changes to the Transfer Policy.Resolved:The GNSO Council hereby requests the preparation of a Preliminary Issue Report, for delivery as expeditiously as possible, on the issues identified in the Transfer Policy Initial Scoping Paper, to assist in determining whether a PDP or series of PDPs should be initiated regarding changes to the Transfer Policy.+1 Tatiana - The Council should communicate clearly to the EPDP Team that this extension is solely for the delivery of the SSAD Final Report.

01:33:36
Thanks Keith so let’s communicate this *clearly*

01:33:49
Yes I think that clarification and clear instruction from Council is needed along with the approval notification

01:34:48
+1 Tatiana

01:35:11
@david - yes of course, but please post the All Panelists And attendees.

01:35:31
If it is a question though, please use the Q&A box.

01:36:58
would like to remind councillors of the vast scope of work of that PDP and the huge complexity of the issues, which certainly contributed to its failure to make headway. The EPDP can not be expected to finally resolve some of those issues, within the same process intended to work quickly and expediently on specifics. Other parts of the community may have issues they are focused on, but the Council has the special role of managing process, and please help keep this under tight control and actively manage it. Thanks.

01:37:35
new hand

01:37:53
*sorry, missed the start of that - as a past vice-chair of the RDS PDP, I would like to remind councillors..

01:38:41
From the ALAC Reps on EPDP and At-Large's Consolidated Policy WG perspective the WHEN and the HOW of the path forward for the Priority 2 Issues is of critical concern

01:39:28
Agree, Cheryl.

01:39:46
FWIW, at the moment it does look like the majority of the so called priority 2 items will be addressed in the priority 1 Final Report (without requiring further deliberation) but there are a couple of issues such as legal/natural (awaiting study results) and feasibility, for which time may be needed to understand whether or not consensus recommendations are possible.

01:40:15
And we have a proposal on thje table of council to consider for those items

01:40:28
A tight time frame on response for the framework would certainly be appreciated @Keith (again on behalf of the ALAC

01:41:07
And Yes I have been specifically briefed on this matter for this meeting

01:42:23
Persoanlly I am also sitting with Option 2 at the moment also

01:45:49
I trust Rafik to manage with an Iron hand

01:46:58
Well done Rafik, trusting your support always.

01:49:26
Process: we have a responsibility to manage (see op procedures). We need to get this right.

01:49:58
Happy to volunteer for the small team, Keith.

01:52:29
happy to be counted in too.

01:52:50
I am in too (small team)

01:54:28
@Marie, @Philippe, @Sebastien, staff has noted this, thank you all.

01:54:41
I will volunteer for the small team

01:54:50
@John, also noted, thank you.

01:58:11
I also volunteer for the small team

01:58:27
@greg, noted, thanks!

02:02:04
Fundamental ByLaws amendments are required to address the final nature of grants made - so that Request for Reconsideration and IRp cannot be used to challenge grants.

02:02:40
It is a Council small team to develop a consolidated approach to address the remaining EPDP Priority 2 topics

02:05:13
No problem

02:08:38
Webinar is on Tuesday 7 July 2020 at 12:00 UTC, please email gnso-secs@icann.org to RSVP

02:08:46
Hear hear

02:09:08
Yes, well done.

02:09:47
Additional information about the webinar here: https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/2020-07-07+-+Webinar+-+CCWG+new+gTLD+Auction+Proceeds+Final+Report

02:10:39
Excellent question Michele

02:11:07
Fiduciary responsibility will always kick in as a potential.

02:11:19
Right

02:11:22
When CCWG participants who polled were counted, the number voting for mechanisms other than A was 10 as opposed to 8 for Mechanism A. In other words, the fact that there were 2 other mechanisms (B & C) resulted in a "split" of votes as between the two more independent mechanisms. This resulted in the CSG Minority Statement questioning the stated "preference" for A.

02:11:36
fiduciary duty might require the Board to use money despite of text in such documents

02:12:42
True Keith and James. But there are ways to firewall, and we need to find them

02:13:27
The amount of Auction Proceeds transferred into the ICANN Reserve Fund as a result of the Board-adopted strategy of replenishment was $36 million.

02:13:42
ICANN Org took the position that it would allocate proceeds in "tranches" for purposes of grantmaking, not allocate the entire remaining amount. The budget in the tranche for each year would be subject to Empowered Community powers over the Budget. At least that was the discussion in the CCWG.

02:13:49
The community chose not to go ahead with the external model that would have created the easiest firewell but yeah if ther are mechanisms they can be evaluated in implementation

02:14:43
The replenishment strategy also included approximately $32 million of funds to allocate to the Reserve Fund from operational excesses to be generated by ICANN org.

02:14:56
Over an 8-year period.

02:16:37
I am happy to support that small group work on CCWG WS2

02:17:01
Thanks James, noted

02:17:46
Nathalie,I'd like to join in me for that small group for WS2

02:17:48
Good idea Tat!

02:18:02
@Juan Manuel, noted, thank you

02:18:32
The Council may wish to connect with the new Planning Function being established under our CFO Xavier Calvez, in relation to implementation planning.

02:19:05
I echo Toms concerns about overlapping work in this area, personally I think that the evolution work needs to be paused pending the existing community driven activities.

02:19:16
re item 6 noting a) the minority statement (the first part, ie consensus evaluation) and b) obvioulsy a CCWP =/= PDP, I was wondering whether PDP 3.0 improvement #4 (in substance) could have been of "some help." Or whether that wasn't fit for purpose. Just a thought...

02:20:01
ICANN org is currently developing a more detailed implementation plan as well, in line with the initial implementation assessment. We will obviously provide the Board and community with updates as required by the Board resolution.

02:20:41
Is it MSSI? I am very sorry if I am confusing who’s responsible for this within ICANN Org, but I think coordination will be crucial :-)

02:20:45
On the HR issues in the GAC meeting running now the HR WG presented to the GAC a 'tool' for possible SOAC use for self assessment *as they see it*

02:22:47
@Tatiana, implementation will largely be coordinated by Xavier’s Planning Team though the work will likely be cross-functional in nature for ICANN org, including Policy and MSSI, for instance. It was indeed MSSI that supported the CCWG and WS2 development work.

02:23:29
Thank you, Mary!

02:23:36
It sure is @Tom :-)

02:24:24
@CLO, a top read.

02:24:31
Very convoluted, but it *really needs sorting*

02:24:48
Thank you @Tom, we tried ;-)

02:25:16
Probably not a best seller on Audible, though.

02:26:40
Thanks Keith. My note explains the request.

02:26:57
@james, it is not the former.

02:27:09
Good thanks Mary!

02:27:17
I g=had assumed the latter

02:27:38
there's no suggestion the IOT would be the panellists. Indeed there are many disqualifying criteria, which many IOT members would be excluded by

02:28:02
Exactly my concern!

02:28:19
Thanks for allaying

02:28:19
Thanks James and Susan.

02:28:26
The Bylaws require ICANN to consult with the SOACs to establish the process for selecting the panel. Final selection will be done by the Board so, as Keith noted, the question is how the community wants to handle the selection process.

02:29:21
I personally am fine with the IOT serving that function

02:30:00
The public comments received indicated support for a “representative group” of community representatives. This could conceivably include a role for the IRP IOT and it is up to the community to determine the group’s composition as well as how it will work with ICANN Org and the external expert to move forward with selection of a slate of potential panelists.

02:32:42
looks quite small

02:34:05
Don't readable... its a shame!

02:34:23
to properly work on this - documents need to be provided at least 2 weeks in advance of the special meeting

02:34:46
so we could discuss it with SG

02:35:12
This is just a preview, Maxim. No decisions required.

02:35:42
Slides are not moving

02:35:43
I meant when we decide to have a meeting , something should be presented as documents in advance

02:37:14
Engineers now happy - slides of blueprints graphics ;-).

02:37:51
it looks like design of the presentation , do we have to approve it? the data is more important

02:37:53
And sorry, Berry might want to add a thing or two

02:38:19
all good for now. will wait til dedicated.

02:38:39
to say something about it - it would be nice to have it

02:38:52
It looks quite small because it is quite big. The challenge is how to make it smaller…

02:39:15
sending it to us , we can use our displays :)

02:39:30
Sorry for the slide snafu :(

02:40:14
And I have a question on this in the Q&A

02:40:28
We will be discussing DNS Abuse with the Board later today as well.

02:41:00
Thanks Keith - Let Cheryl and I know if you want/need our thoughts.

02:41:29
because we obviously have a few ;-)

02:41:36
I agree....and the reality is that we are already addressing DNS Abuse

02:42:17
Lots of sessions, the CPH Framework, the bilateral discussions between CPH and ICANN Org....

02:42:35
I would say that that is a good start to addressing....

02:42:49
Yes SSR is a part of OCTO

02:44:07
Thanks John

02:44:10
wasn’t 100% sure

02:44:22
Thanks Pam - happy to work with you as ever!

02:44:34
Thanks, Marie

02:44:41
Sebastien asked for 2min

02:44:53
there’s a hand in the chat from a participant as well

02:47:45
I'm back. VPN dropped briefly

02:48:13
@lawrence, you will need to unmute your mic

02:48:20
I thought we were not taking audio interventions

02:48:27
Only using the QA pod

02:48:45
@James - why would that be the case?

02:48:51
@james, correct during the meeting, but during the open mic, we are accepting audio interventions

02:48:57
that is what I thought as well but his hand went upanyway

02:49:03
@James, we are at the Open Microphone portion of the agenda.

02:49:12
We always have that for public Council meetings.

02:49:31
ALL COUNCILORS, please take a quick 5 min break and then log into the ICANN Board and GNSO Council Zoom room for sound checks.

02:49:34
Thanks Keith

02:49:40
Nathalie do the attendees know that once you inmute them they often still have to unmute themselves?

02:49:47
I assumed we had restructions due to the zoom audio bombing iussues previously

02:49:48
Thank you all.

02:49:55
Thanks you all

02:50:00
thanks all

02:50:04
Thanks Keith, thanks everyone.

02:50:05
Thanks alot Team

02:50:06
thanks all se u in 15mins

02:50:07
thank you all

02:50:07
Thank you all

02:50:08
THanks..

02:50:08
Bye for now