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Michelle DeSmyter's Personal Meeting Room - Shared screen with speaker view
Sue Schuler
30:07
Welcome to the meeting of the Spec 11 3(b) Discussion Group. Please announce your name before speaking for purposes of the transcript. Please mute your microphone when not speaking to help maintain sound quality. Thanks
Maxim Alzoba
30:26
hello all
Nacho Amadoz
31:26
Hello, will remain on mute as I have a newborn around in the house
Rubens Kuhl
34:09
"Statistics - The branch of mathematics that deals with the collection, organization, analysis, and interpretation of *numerical* data."
Rubens Kuhl
35:15
Registry Operator will maintain statistical reports on the *number* of security threats identified and the actions taken as a result of the periodic security checks. Registry Operator will maintain these reports for the term of the Agreement unless a shorter period is required by law or approved by ICANN, and will provide them to ICANN upon request.
Rubens Kuhl
38:44
Voluntary, yes.
Matthew Crossman (Amazon)
39:12
+1 Sheri
Rubens Kuhl
42:57
They are lost because we give them numbers, DAAR gives them numbers, and they can't compare them. And that's the nature of Information Security, they just need to live with it.
Rubens Kuhl
48:55
Not willing to provide ICANN any more information.
Rubens Kuhl
49:16
For Compliance.
Rubens Kuhl
49:31
Yes, including public presentations...
Kurt Pritz
50:03
Any amendment to the agreement would have to occur through the regular process. ICANN right raise it during the next amendment event.
Ray Fassett (.Jobs)
50:43
Who at ICANN org is proposing to enter into a dialogue?
Matthew Crossman (Amazon)
51:21
Agree with Kurt - if the purpose of this conversation is to work towards an amendment then I don't think we need to proceed
Sam Demetriou
53:32
I think the most important thing at the outset is getting ICANN to be very clear and specific about what they are trying to achieve here
Maxim Alzoba
53:47
in out case they wanted info, answering to what would constitute treason charges, so not all questions were harmless
Matthew Crossman (Amazon)
54:36
+1 Sam
Rubens Kuhl
54:45
@Sam, that would require absolute candor from them, to answer "To please SSAC, ALAC, GAC, BC and IPC".
Kurt Pritz
55:24
When ICANN says “their point of view,” are you referring to the “areas of disagreement” on this slide?
James Galvin (Afilias)
55:57
@Sam - +1
Rubens Kuhl
58:58
Just FYI, ShadowServer will provide their data to registries for free.
Rubens Kuhl
59:38
And those provisions are standard in this market, so I believe ICANN couldn't.
Kurt Pritz
59:43
But ICANN could just pay more money and amend those contracts - if they care about DNS Abuse
James Galvin (Afilias)
59:47
the one downside I worry about if ICANN shares the data is that we leave ourselves open to being required to act according to the reports.
James Galvin (Afilias)
01:00:46
And that will turn into a discussion of the fact that ICANN only gets domain names and an indication of the problem. they don’t get any evidence, which is what we would all want. The RBLs don’t share data in part because it exposes honeypots.
Rubens Kuhl
01:01:14
OpenPhish has a free level, PhishTank is always free, MalwarePatrol has a free level...
Rubens Kuhl
01:02:50
Giving ICANN compliance detailed abuse data -> Only after hell freezes over
Rubens Kuhl
01:03:20
Climate change, I know.
Matthew Crossman (Amazon)
01:03:24
Thanks all!