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New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Operational Design Phase Update - Shared screen with speaker view
Raymond Mamattah
01:00:18
Good evening from Accra, Ghana.
Herb Waye
01:00:22
Greetings from the ICANN Office of the Ombudsman.
Theresa Swinehart
01:00:35
Welcome all, thank you for joining.
Theresa Swinehart
01:00:50
Welcome all, thank you for joining.
AndreaGlandon
01:01:17
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01:02:59
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Martin Sutton
01:16:51
Is that another 3 months Staff will take to start the ODP, could you please elaborate why it may take this time beyond th 7 months already used to plan the ODP?
Paul McGrady
01:17:16
13 months is a long time. Is that the "real" timeframe or is it the "safety" timeframe? In other words, is there is hope of getting it done sooner, keeping in mind the proposed changes from SubPro were not many or sweeping?.
Phil Buckingham
01:27:01
I am confused . Why do we need an IRT and also another IRT called SPRIT recommended by the Sub Pro WG.
Jeff Neuman
01:28:00
@Phil - The SPIRT does not have a role until after the final applicant guidebook is done.
Jeff Neuman
01:28:46
The IRT is formed once the policy is approved by the Board and goes until the release of the final applicant guidebook.
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01:28:59
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Anne Aikman-Scalese
01:29:05
Hi Phil. Public comment on Sub Pro was to the effect that a mechanism is needed to address issues that arise after the IRT is done and during actual implementation. This happened in the 2012 round and the SPIRT was developed to have a mechanism to address those questions with GNSO Council oversight.
Amr Elsadr
01:29:07
@Phil: I believe SPRIT is meant to be a standing committee performing an ongoing function following the completion of the IRT’s work.
AndreaGlandon
01:29:34
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Anne Aikman-Scalese
01:31:56
re Risks - there will no doubt be heavy analysis/discussion of Registry Voluntary Commitments given the ALAC and GAC comments on same.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
01:32:48
Well noted @Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese
01:33:19
Re "Dependencies", Closed Generic policy is implicated.
Xavier Calvez
01:54:20
To explain why Göran mentioned that it could be a $300 million or $400 million project: that is the range of the 2012 round (we receive 1942 applications at $185k = $360 million).
Xavier Calvez
01:54:43
If we would receive a similar number of applications for the next round.
Jim Prendergast
01:55:24
Thanks for answering the GAC question
Donna Austin
01:55:41
The lessons learned were essentially captured as the outputs of the Sub Pro WG Final Report.
Jeff Neuman
01:56:19
@Donna - Correct. And for that, SubPro also reviewed the hundreds of pages that ICANN Org did on their lessons learned as well
Amr Elsadr
01:56:27
@Theresa: You didn’t really answer the question. ;-)
Jeff Neuman
01:57:10
@Amr - there is also an ePDP underway on the application of LGR as well as the treatment of variants.
Theresa Swinehart
01:57:34
Jeff, yes, there is that work as well.
Jeff Neuman
01:58:49
The only parts SubPro did not include in its work are internal lessons learned by ICANN (eg., to create a custom solution or not, payment systems, selection of vendors, etc.)
Amr Elsadr
01:59:00
@Jeff: Yup. It’s just that my reading of the Outputs on IDNs suggest that they don’t provide the same level of predictability as Outputs on other topics, which is understandable considering the ongoing work on UA and LGRs. I don’t know how long this will all take and how success on them might be measured. My hope is that Org won’t let that ongoing work delay the next round.
Martin Sutton
01:59:17
Agree Donna - we need to avoid duplicating all the previous work of SubPro
Jeff Neuman
02:01:25
If I do my math correctly, I think we are talking about 2023 before the ICANN Board is in a position to approve the policy.
Donna Austin
02:02:00
Comparing this simply on the number of recommendations from 2009 v outputs from SubPro is not an apples to apples equation. The SubPro outputs include implementation guidance that wasn't available when the original new gTLD policy was developed, and those outputs are developed with the benefit of the learnings from 2012.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:03:36
Well noted @Donna
Susan Payne
02:05:05
Agree Donna, the SubPro outputs are fulsome not to create extra work for ICANN but to save it from doing so. The policy recommendations for the previous round were extremely high-level requiring extensive fleshing-out in implementation. that's not the case here
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:07:25
indeed @Susan we worked rather hard to make that the case (we thought)
Jeff Neuman
02:09:37
I am not disagreeing with outstanding items, but I think we can manage things concurrently as opposed to sequentially.
Anne Aikman-Scalese
02:09:39
Why not empanel the IRT to work with the ODP team - and run them in parallel as Jeff suggests - it's better than just "consulting with GNSO Council liaison as set out in the Scoping Document. Then condition the approval on outcomes of those parallel processes. Sequential does not make sense.
Jeff Neuman
02:09:54
Of course
Donna Austin
02:11:39
Notwithstanding concerns about the length of time this latest effort will take, it is important for the Board to identify a 'date certain' for the next application window. This is to allow potential applicants to consider the benefits of, and prepare, an application.
Goran Marby
02:11:42
I am not supposed to answer proposals in the chat…but about the above. I would think that the GNSO should have a discussion about that proposal
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:12:23
Thanks @Xavier that is quite clear to me at least :-)
Phil Buckingham
02:12:38
Thanks Xavier . Appreciated .
Paul McGrady
02:12:48
+1 Donna. Companies need certainty in their planning. That should definitely be one of the "lessons learned" from the last round.
Xavier Calvez
02:13:05
Thank you Cheryl and Phil. Useful question to address here.
Goran Marby
02:17:41
Good questions and good discussions!
Anne Aikman-Scalese
02:17:52
My hand is up
Paul McGrady
02:18:23
Thanks to all Staff and Board members! A good call and I appreciate the direct answers to our questions.
Xavier Calvez
02:18:38
@Martin et al: the ODP includes as Martin noted to evaluate risks, including the one Martin mentioned.
Jeff Neuman
02:18:39
Are we not in the 3 month ramp up period now?
Jeff Neuman
02:19:50
I may have misunderstood Lars, but are we in the 3 month ramp up period now?
Lars Hoffmann
02:20:08
Yes Jeff.
Jeff Neuman
02:20:17
ok. Great. I misheard
Goran Marby
02:20:37
So have a look on the open positions we have..
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:20:44
Thanks for this update I trust regularity in interactions will be a key in the transparency aspects of all this process going forward....
Herb Waye
02:20:56
Thank you everyone… stay safe and be kind… see you all soon at ICANN72
Martin Sutton
02:20:56
Thank you
Justine Chew
02:21:42
When will the ODP workplan be released? I may have missed a comment on this.
Jeff Neuman
02:22:02
That is not me....3 of us have applied for the Liaison position.
Jeff Neuman
02:22:21
I would not assume that will be me. There are 3 very qualified applicants
Martin Sutton
02:23:13
As the IRP are volunteers, it does not have a financial impact for ICANN, presumably
Martin Sutton
02:23:27
Good suggestion Anne
Martin Sutton
02:23:57
IRT I meant :-)
Paul McGrady
02:26:13
As long as by opening discussion we aren't reopening policy development. That is done.
Anne Aikman-Scalese
02:26:58
Sorry Jeff - I made an assumption it would be you - especially given your role with the GAC, which would be most helpful to coordination.
Herb Waye
02:28:14
Good bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
02:28:14
Bye
Anne Aikman-Scalese
02:28:14
@Justine - I think the work plan was released in this webinar via the slides presented
Theresa Swinehart
02:28:15
Thank you all for joining
Anne Aikman-Scalese
02:28:19
Thank you all.
Amr Elsadr
02:28:21
Thanks all. Bye.