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Middle East DNS Forum 2021 - 7 April AM - Shared screen with speaker view
Seher Sagiroglu ayhan
01:03:53
Good morning all
Aïcha Abbad
01:05:49
Salam
Baher Esmat
01:23:16
You are doing great Ali :-)
Mohammed AlShannaq
01:32:41
<QUESTION>برأيكم من هي الجهات المسؤولة عن تسويق اسماء النطاقات العربية ؟ وما هي الخطط التسويقية للترويج لاستخدام هذه النطاقات ان وجدت؟</QUESTION>
Aïcha Abbad
01:32:48
شكرا علي مداخلة جيدة ومفيدة جدا
Hesham alhammad
01:33:05
thanks Ali very the informative presentation
Chokri Ben Romdhane
01:33:12
Congrats @Ali
Munir Badr
01:33:21
Hi Ali, you mentioned the registry-registrar model
Munir Badr
01:33:38
When can international domain companies apply to become a registrar in .SA and the IDN
Munir Badr
01:33:40
Thanks
Munir Badr
01:34:27
<QUESTION>Hi Ali, you mentioned the registry-registrar model. When can international domain companies apply to become a registrar in .SA and the IDN</QUESTION>
Sivasubramanian M
01:34:32
In theory, what happens if you tell all your prospective registrants that they can choose from the Unicode characters that pertain ONLY to Arabic, and none from Persian, or a sister script? The prospective Registrant would be deprived of his ability to register a name, because there aren't enough characters in Arabic?
Sivasubramanian M
01:34:39
<q>
Sivasubramanian M
01:34:46
that was a question, please
Munir Badr
01:35:25
Understood, thanks Ali!
Aisha Almamari
01:35:32
is there a plan to open domain names registration under .sa for international ?
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
01:36:10
Thank you Ali
Abdalmonem Galila
01:36:26
Thanks Ali
Manal Ismail
01:36:52
Many thanks Ali !!
Fusun Nebil
01:37:57
Will you share presentations?
Fahd Batayneh
01:38:22
Yes Fusen, we intend to post slides and presentations on the ME DNS Forum website https://mednsf.org
Fahd Batayneh
01:38:30
Expect them next week; hopefully
Ali Alhoshaiyan
01:44:53
Thank you for the question Sivasubramanian. Registrants can register any names as they can use the complete set of Arabic language letters and numbers. Saudi ccTLDs are intended for local personal and businesses and allowing other characters which could cause confusion for users to access websites. There are 26 letters in the Arabic languages and they are all available for registration. Other variants and form of the words are enabled through the interface after registration to allow other languages and international reachability
Aïcha Abbad
01:48:32
انقطع الصوت والصورة متوقفة
Abdalmonem Galila
01:49:47
It is working well here Aicha, check your connection
Aïcha Abbad
01:50:15
شكرا
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
01:50:20
<QUESTION>are there any tools available for public from your firm to scan websites and identify primary language of the website and if the website offers multilingual version of the website to automate process of identifying sites websites? For example ccTLD operator can use to generate similar statistics for their ccTLD? </QUESTION>
Sivasubramanian M
01:53:02
@Alii Alhoshaiyan " There are 26 letters in the Arabic languages and they are all available for registration. " That is good, but you also state that "Other variants and form of the words are enabled", so, it is 26 Arabic characters + more characters from other scripts ???
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
01:53:40
<COMMENT>.موقع seems missing from the stats</COMMENT>
Fahd Batayneh
01:54:12
Siva, just to be clear. The Arabic script includes languages such as Arabic, Farsi (Persian), Urdu, Pashto, Dari… and 100s of other languages that use the Arabic character
Fahd Batayneh
01:54:49
Arabic has 26 characters, but other Arabic script languages have characters not used in the Arabic language
Baher Esmat
01:55:06
Love the picture in this slide @Emily :-)
Aïcha Abbad
01:55:52
Je n'ai pas le son ni les slides. je suis triste de rater des info interessantes
Sivasubramanian M
01:56:50
Fahd, in that case what may be called the "maximum" Arabic Character set would be the 26 Arabic Characters + those specific characters from related scripts that ARE assimilated into the Arabic script table ?
Seher Sagiroglu- ICANN Org
01:56:54
The link to the IDN World Report website: https://idnworldreport.eu/
Baher Esmat
01:58:13
@Aicha sorry for that. However, slides and recordings will be made available on mednsf.org
Aïcha Abbad
01:58:31
Thanks Baher
Abdulrahman Abotaleb
01:58:48
Thank you
Ali Alhoshaiyan
02:00:45
Siva, you can learn more from the Arabic script table https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reference-lgrs-second-level-2020-08-24-en
Aïcha Abbad
02:01:45
أخيرا تم إعادة الاتصال والحصوا على الصوت والصورة . شكرا
Chokri Ben Romdhane
02:01:53
<QUESTION>If I understand the MTA constitue the weak chain link in the EAI evolvement , which MTA componenent constitue the main handicap? </QUESTION>
Baher Esmat
02:01:59
Thanks much @Emily
Timothy Roy
02:02:16
<question> how are the IDNs faring with the mail servers?</question>
Paul Muchene
02:02:18
Thanks for the insightful presentation @Emily
Manal Ismail
02:02:22
Million thanks Emily !!
Sivasubramanian M
02:03:47
Thank you for the link Ali. Please also understand that my question is not really an Arabic question, it is more of an IDN variant question.
Maria Kolesnikova
02:03:54
Thank you, Emily! Great presentation!
Fahd Batayneh
02:04:05
@Chokri and @Tim, we have a session on Universal Acceptance starting at 11.00 AM UTC. You may ask your questions related to MTA, EAI, and mail servers with IDNs.
Jamel ALOUI
02:04:15
Thank you for this great initiative and for the quality of the presentations which are both interesting and enriching, thank you very much Fahd, Baher, all the speakers and the entire organization team.
Sivasubramanian M
02:04:30
From my computer https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reference-lgrs-second-level-2020-08-24-en shows a site not reached error
Fahd Batayneh
02:04:59
Siva, the link works at my end
Fahd Batayneh
02:05:09
@Jamel, thank you for your kind comments. We value them.
Sivasubramanian M
02:06:13
This site can’t be reachedCheck if there is a typo in www.icann.org.DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
Baher Esmat
02:08:54
@siva I’m able to access this URL from my computer
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
02:09:06
Its loading at my end, maybe the NS can't be reached from your ISPs resolves
Sivasubramanian M
02:09:34
I tried the link from my phone on mobile network, it works
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
02:09:42
Sometimes country to country specific blocking happens unfortunately, like for example github.com blocks developers from Syria because of OFAC banning rules
Paul Muchene
02:09:44
@Siva use a public resolver on your device
Sivasubramanian M
02:10:05
but from my computer on fiber, it doesn't work.. Similar problems have occurred in the past... I can email you some screenshots.
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
02:10:29
I hope ICANN isn't doing the same and being affected by any US banning rules for countries 😅
Paul Muchene
02:10:40
@Siva what if you changed your DNS settings on your computer?
Sivasubramanian M
02:13:20
Thank you Paul, there were some complications in that too..
Sivasubramanian M
02:13:24
When running Google Chrome under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man google-chrome-stable for more information on flags and environment variables.
Sivasubramanian M
02:13:39
A similar complication occurred in the case of Chrome
Sivasubramanian M
02:14:22
In firefox it seemed feasible to say 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 but I think that also did not work
Sivasubramanian M
02:21:08
bandwidth test shows 35 Mbps, Internet working fine, but icann.org does not resolve. Chrome, Ubuntu 20.04 (apologies to all, I wanted to say that a certain link did not work, the conversation expanded)
Abdulrahman Abotaleb
02:30:00
Thank you Sarmad
Aïcha Abbad
02:30:34
شكرا السيد سرمد مداخلة قيمة جدا
Hazem Hezzah
02:30:43
Thank you Sarmad.
Manal Ismail
02:30:46
Many thanks Sarmad !!
Timothy Roy
02:31:15
<question> how are the IDNs and the mail servers working with respect to the MTA?</question>
Sivasubramanian M
02:33:57
But on the Internet, there must be some form of harmonization and standardization, though it is a compromise, we can't possibly be saying, these characters are preferred in Asia, this set of characters in Europe, that in Africa, let's have them all in any case.
Sivasubramanian M
02:34:04
(non-technical comment)
Sivasubramanian M
02:34:41
# comment at what the panelist is saying at the moment
Baher Esmat
02:38:53
Thank you everyone
Hadia Elminiawi
02:38:53
Thank you all
Aïcha Abbad
02:39:14
شكرا لكل المتدخلين والمنظمين.
Hadia Elminiawi
02:39:14
bye
Seher Sagiroglu- ICANN Org
02:39:17
Thank you all